2019 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 11 - 13

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Re: 2019 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 11 - 13

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McMika98 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 19:03
The forecast is for strong winds all Sunday, gusts over 70kph blowing NorthEast so any car with unstable yaw during turning will be blown away by the time they finish the corners. Prime candidates are: RedBull, Ferrari, Alfa.
Expect multiple safety cars and crashes, could be good hunting ground for Williams to score multiple points.
Why do you think that those cars have unstable yaw?

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Sevach wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 18:40
Juzh wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 16:53
Shrieker wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 15:52


Excellent ! You more than deserve updoots for all these.
thanks. I get more than enough of them in team threads, no worries :mrgreen: you should check those if you havent already. anyway, some more:

P02 hamilton 1.27.885 - mega first sector
https://streamable.com/hfv3q
https://streamable.com/hfv3q

P07 sainz 1.29.051
https://streamable.com/9538k
https://streamable.com/9538k
Seems like Bottas has less drag than Hamilton, way faster top speed in the non-drs areas.
I wonder if they converge...

Bottas also slightly faster than Leclerc heading into 130R, but that could(emphasis on could before people come here shooting me) be down to Ferrari having an old engine on the car.
I think Bottas just got a great tow,as mentioned before. Bottas tops out at 315kph while Hamilton could only do 305kph before 130r. That is some major speed advantage.

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Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:40
Sevach wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 18:40
Juzh wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 16:53

thanks. I get more than enough of them in team threads, no worries :mrgreen: you should check those if you havent already. anyway, some more:

P02 hamilton 1.27.885 - mega first sector
https://streamable.com/hfv3q
https://streamable.com/hfv3q

P07 sainz 1.29.051
https://streamable.com/9538k
https://streamable.com/9538k
Seems like Bottas has less drag than Hamilton, way faster top speed in the non-drs areas.
I wonder if they converge...

Bottas also slightly faster than Leclerc heading into 130R, but that could(emphasis on could before people come here shooting me) be down to Ferrari having an old engine on the car.
I think Bottas just got a great tow,as mentioned before. Bottas tops out at 315kph while Hamilton could only do 305kph before 130r. That is some major speed advantage.
Hamilton confirmed Bottas had a massive tow (worth 0.5s): https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... a/4556241/

Ferrari can crank up their PU, but they're losing lots of time in the corners.

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zibby43 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:48
Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:40
Sevach wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 18:40


Seems like Bottas has less drag than Hamilton, way faster top speed in the non-drs areas.
I wonder if they converge...

Bottas also slightly faster than Leclerc heading into 130R, but that could(emphasis on could before people come here shooting me) be down to Ferrari having an old engine on the car.
I think Bottas just got a great tow,as mentioned before. Bottas tops out at 315kph while Hamilton could only do 305kph before 130r. That is some major speed advantage.
Hamilton confirmed Bottas had a massive tow (worth 0.5s): https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... a/4556241/

Ferrari can crank up their PU, but they're losing lots of time in the corners.

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg
They are still behind in the long duration high speed corners. Also of note is that the Merc (Bottas only, as Hamilton had traffic) could take the first Degner in 7th gear while Leclerc needed 6th gear. It just shows the grip levels are just higher on the Merc. Makes sense as Merc just brought updates so maybe they have firmly returned to the top again.

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McMika98 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 19:03
The forecast is for strong winds all Sunday, gusts over 70kph blowing NorthEast
Have they ever held a race with wind speeds that high?
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Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 21:00
zibby43 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:48
Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:40


I think Bottas just got a great tow,as mentioned before. Bottas tops out at 315kph while Hamilton could only do 305kph before 130r. That is some major speed advantage.
Hamilton confirmed Bottas had a massive tow (worth 0.5s): https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... a/4556241/

Ferrari can crank up their PU, but they're losing lots of time in the corners.

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg
They are still behind in the long duration high speed corners. Also of note is that the Merc (Bottas only, as Hamilton had traffic) could take the first Degner in 7th gear while Leclerc needed 6th gear. It just shows the grip levels are just higher on the Merc. Makes sense as Merc just brought updates so maybe they have firmly returned to the top again.
That's a very nice observation re Degner! And I agree. The bargeboard/side pod vane area on these cars seems to be a ripe area of development.

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dans79 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 21:10
McMika98 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 19:03
The forecast is for strong winds all Sunday, gusts over 70kph blowing NorthEast
Have they ever held a race with wind speeds that high?
This year Bahrain and Baku were windy but not to that level, about 50kph gust. RedBull seem to strugggle massively under such circumstances.

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Re: 2019 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 11 - 13

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Hagibis starting to weaken.
https://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/213832.php

It's too bad the circuit is closed to the public but on the bright side race day will be much more fully packed with racing.

The rain and wind at Suzuka currently is fairly light.

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Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 21:00
zibby43 wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:48
Hammerfist wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 20:40


I think Bottas just got a great tow,as mentioned before. Bottas tops out at 315kph while Hamilton could only do 305kph before 130r. That is some major speed advantage.
Hamilton confirmed Bottas had a massive tow (worth 0.5s): https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... a/4556241/

Ferrari can crank up their PU, but they're losing lots of time in the corners.

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg
They are still behind in the long duration high speed corners. Also of note is that the Merc (Bottas only, as Hamilton had traffic) could take the first Degner in 7th gear while Leclerc needed 6th gear. It just shows the grip levels are just higher on the Merc. Makes sense as Merc just brought updates so maybe they have firmly returned to the top again.
Nice observation- but Max’s actually ‘crushing’ Bottas in that particular corner, with a higher mid/ corner exit speed.

Just sayin’.

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The worst conditions will come in the next 5 hours. I hope it's not too bad. It's looking that way, but one can never say for sure. And always better safe than sorry.
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Zarathustra wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 21:46

Nice observation- but Max’s actually ‘crushing’ Bottas in that particular corner, with a higher mid/ corner exit speed.

Just sayin’.
Stop sayin', start proving.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 23:39
Zarathustra wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 21:46

Nice observation- but Max’s actually ‘crushing’ Bottas in that particular corner, with a higher mid/ corner exit speed.

Just sayin’.
Stop sayin', start proving.
Sure.

Bottas @ 0:40 - 263kmh
https://streamable.com/ro0eo

Max @ 0:43 - 265kmh
https://streamable.com/b100i

As I said- just sayin’.

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I was going through the Suzuka lap from 2017 and thought to make a comparison vid like Juzh. First time doing it so unsure if I selected the most accurate start point but I went with when their throttle becomes "intentional" for the start of the lap. Also posted in W10 thread.

https://streamable.com/67q7s
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Re: 2019 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 11 - 13

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It's almost 11AM and I took a little walk outside my quarters here in Suzuka and the rain and wind is definitely picking up. Bullet trains stopped running and Mie prefecture will get hammered. They are talking bout 900 mm of rain from Typhoon 19. Supposed to clear out by 3 AM Sunday.

Ispano-san was spot on about Ferrari exhaust fumes. I thought who is starting a wood campfire in the Ferrari's pits haha
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So around 8PM euro time tomorrow.
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