Scuderia Ferrari have been fined €50000 by the stewards after the technical delegate reported that the team had put nearly 5kg more fuel into the car than reported by the team.
Normally this sort of predictions tend not to age very well. Not this timedjones wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 12:26This is missing the point completely.
The Ferrari design has been low downforce and high top speed from day one of the season.
The engine trick that now seems to have gone since the clarifications allowed them to run more downforce but still be fast on the straights. Now they do not have that we will again see slow cornering and higher tyre wear.
Expect to see the closest Ferrari at minimum 30 seconds behind the leader come the flag.
I think my top 4 would be Max, Lewis, Carlos, Charles in no particular order. They have all been excellent. Perhaps Max and Lewis slightly ahead of Carlos, and Charles slightly behind him.turbof1 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:15Since we are going down that way, how about Sainz and/or Norris? Didn't they showed excellent things given the lesser car?Wass85 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:12Listen Hamilton has driven very well but it's not a given he's been the best driver this season.
Max has a reasonable shout at that and so does Leclerc considering the circumstances.
On one hand you have to give it to Lewis because of his consistency on a Sunday but for the most part he's had the best race car.
Does that top Max's relentless speed with a few errors which are down to overdriving?
What about Leclerc getting 7 poles and beating a 4x world champion in his first season in the team?
Doesn't always have to be a top 3 team driver.
I'll be honest, this does not sit well with me. To my intuition this is a breach of the technical regulations. If I am wrong, please someone correct me. But if not, this is a meaningless punishment.f1jcw wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:17Ferrari fined €50,000 for the fuel discrepancy (which was 4.88kg) but Leclerc keeps third place #F1 #AbuDhabiGP
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I think for once this hurt them more. The P3 does nothing for the championships and they already had the TV fame of being on the podium. Think they would rather have kept the 50k and hand over the trophy.
No not really because they have been quite close to each other even though the points say otherwise.turbof1 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:15Since we are going down that way, how about Sainz and/or Norris? Didn't they showed excellent things given the lesser car?Wass85 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:12Listen Hamilton has driven very well but it's not a given he's been the best driver this season.
Max has a reasonable shout at that and so does Leclerc considering the circumstances.
On one hand you have to give it to Lewis because of his consistency on a Sunday but for the most part he's had the best race car.
Does that top Max's relentless speed with a few errors which are down to overdriving?
What about Leclerc getting 7 poles and beating a 4x world champion in his first season in the team?
Doesn't always have to be a top 3 team driver
More than 4% of total weight. That is not just a simple mistake. Although we are talking about a team where a mechanic forgot to put his gloves on in a DOUBLE pit stop when handling 100 degrees celcius rubber (check the footage of the long Vettel stop
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Yup it is indeed a breach...but as usual the F1 stewards are incompetent, they needed 6 hours to come to THIS decision. If it was any other team, it would have been a disqualification.turbof1 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:19I'll be honest, this does not sit well with me. To my intuition this is a breach of the technical regulations. If I am wrong, please someone correct me. But if not, this is a meaningless punishment.f1jcw wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:17Ferrari fined €50,000 for the fuel discrepancy (which was 4.88kg) but Leclerc keeps third place #F1 #AbuDhabiGP
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If there has been a case like this in the past and that team got a disqualification or something like that, this one the Ferrari got is way too harmless.f1jcw wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:17Ferrari fined €50,000 for the fuel discrepancy (which was 4.88kg) but Leclerc keeps third place #F1 #AbuDhabiGP
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They don't like to make a fusssiskue2005 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:22Yup it is indeed a breach...but as usual the F1 stewards are incompetent, they needed 6 hours to come to THIS decision. If it was any other team, it would have been a disqualification.turbof1 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:19I'll be honest, this does not sit well with me. To my intuition this is a breach of the technical regulations. If I am wrong, please someone correct me. But if not, this is a meaningless punishment.f1jcw wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:17Ferrari fined €50,000 for the fuel discrepancy (which was 4.88kg) but Leclerc keeps third place #F1 #AbuDhabiGP
https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/stat ... 1342146560
I guess it depends on what metrics you want to use. I absolutely agree that Leclerc and Verstappen had an excellent season with only a few mistakes blighting their performance, especially Leclerc in his first season in the Ferrari, second season in F1, under the huge microscope of the Italian press and up against a well-established WDC. In the context of such a young, inexperienced driver, that's probably the greatest achievement this year. I can't wait to see how quickly he develops and I wouldn't be surprised to see him lifting the WDC next year.Wass85 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:12Listen Hamilton has driven very well but it's not a given he's been the best driver this season.
Max has a reasonable shout at that and so does Leclerc considering the circumstances.
On one hand you have to give it to Lewis because of his consistency on a Sunday but for the most part he's had the best race car.
Does that top Max's relentless speed with a few errors which are down to overdriving?
What about Leclerc getting 7 poles and beating a 4x world champion in his first season in the team?
Especially Ferrari team, after Canadaf1jcw wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:23They don't like to make a fusssiskue2005 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:22Yup it is indeed a breach...but as usual the F1 stewards are incompetent, they needed 6 hours to come to THIS decision. If it was any other team, it would have been a disqualification.
