Social disgdistancing at work in 1918
https://www.popsci.com/story/health/cor ... ource=digg
St. Louis lifted their bans early that's why you see the hump.
This is a very interesting picture. The only thing I'd question is the time-line. Overloading the healthcare system is not something I'd expect in mid April, but within March for most countries in Europe. Other countries/regions might be less affected, depending on when the spread started and how fast it is progressing, as well as what action governments are taking.zibby43 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2020, 23:49This graph is a simple way to represent why extreme social distancing measures are necessary.
The red line represents surge critical care bed capacity.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETbvzf2UcAA ... name=large
Without the social distancing measures, the healthcare system will be completely overwhelmed.
My fiancee is an ER nurse. I'm terrified for her on a daily basis. Since she is staying at work to help people survive, I ask that everyone else do their part and stay at home.
Lol, you and your additive manufacturingizzy wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 00:18i think that's a bit of morale-boosting PR tbh, according to https://www.wired.co.uk/article/car-man ... entilators the most they or car manufacturers can do is weld frames and make some components with additive manufacturingDiesel wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 00:03https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51963897
Matt Hancock, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK also said tonight that F1 teams were working to manufacture the ventilators.
In these difficult times it's so much more positive than subtractive manufacturingnzjrs wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 10:30Lol, you and your additive manufacturingizzy wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 00:18i think that's a bit of morale-boosting PR tbh, according to https://www.wired.co.uk/article/car-man ... entilators the most they or car manufacturers can do is weld frames and make some components with additive manufacturingDiesel wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 00:03https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51963897
Matt Hancock, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK also said tonight that F1 teams were working to manufacture the ventilators.
China has martial law. Italy was the First euro country infected, they underestimated It could spread in Europe. As for the other countries in Europe After seeing Italy closing in Europe they had no excusesAMG.Tzan wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 11:23Do you believe we could race in China by May as things stand there??
The Chinese have managed to almost stop new infections and almost recover everyone infected ("just" 9000 to go)! But the race there would depend more on the teams and the countries they come from rather than the situation in China alone!
Italy and Spain are out of hand...i don't see them recovering any time soon...even come summer i think the situation will still be critical! I still can't understand how they managed to end up like this...people just underestimate the danger of a pandemic and that's where we end up! Same goes for the UK...their silly plan quickly got dropped thankfully!
Btw Italy has already surpassed China's deaths...just wow!
No, no way. There is one huge drawback to China's strategy: you need to remain in effective quarantine until the rest of the world is clean, otherwise you are very quickly back at square one.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 11:23Do you believe we could race in China by May as things stand there??
The Chinese have managed to almost stop new infections and almost recover everyone infected ("just" 9000 to go)! But the race there would depend more on the teams and the countries they come from rather than the situation in China alone!
Italy and Spain are out of hand...i don't see them recovering any time soon...even come summer i think the situation will still be critical! I still can't understand how they managed to end up like this...people just underestimate the danger of a pandemic and that's where we end up! Same goes for the UK...their silly plan quickly got dropped thankfully!
Btw Italy has already surpassed China's deaths...just wow!
I don't believe China's data at all: the state has put everyone in Wuhan virtually under house arrest. Even if the claims were true, which I doubt given the extreme censorship, it's not something any other country can copy.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 11:23Do you believe we could race in China by May as things stand there??
The Chinese have managed to almost stop new infections and almost recover everyone infected ("just" 9000 to go)! But the race there would depend more on the teams and the countries they come from rather than the situation in China alone!
Italy and Spain are out of hand...i don't see them recovering any time soon...even come summer i think the situation will still be critical! I still can't understand how they managed to end up like this...people just underestimate the danger of a pandemic and that's where we end up! Same goes for the UK...their silly plan quickly got dropped thankfully!
Btw Italy has already surpassed China's deaths...just wow!
Good point. A close friend is a very fit cyclist. His cycle club, and others in the area, have cancelled their group rides. Nobody wants to turn up at A&E (ER) with a broken collarbone and use up hospital resources. Young,fit, people doing their bit for the rest of society. Stopping riding isn’t a small ask. They’re addicted to it.
That's a good attitude. I wish more people would take it. And you don't even have to stop riding (if you do take care and don't push it leading to incidents) - just stop doing it in groups. A solo ride or walk to keep yourself fit should be no issue, and it's one of the reasons why I favor a partial lockdown with proper social distancing over a complete lockdown - and why I am rather pissed watching people in stores and parks absolutely botching it.henry wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 12:27Good point. A close friend is a very fit cyclist. His cycle club, and others in the area, have cancelled their group rides. Nobody wants to turn up at A&E (ER) with a broken collarbone and use up hospital resources. Young,fit, people doing their bit for the rest of society. Stopping riding isn’t a small ask. They’re addicted to it.
They did react early. I suspect because the threat of an Olympic cancellation/postponement would be considered a national catastrophe, even if it isn't their fault.Phil wrote: ↑20 Mar 2020, 12:20In regards to China's numbers; I do also question their accuracy. You can only count, what you test. If you don't let people out of their houses, how will you test them? How will they show up in numbers?
However, what is very encouraging is Japan:
Positive cases: 963
Since yesterday: +20
Fatalities: 33
Recovered: 215
Still active: 715
Serious critical: 49
Cases per 1M population: 8
Japan is a country with a population of 126 Million people with 38 Million in the metropolitan area of Tokyo. To only have so few cases is staggering. They also reacted very early, though I don't know to what lengths they have gone.