[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Darth-Piekus]

Norris 5-place grid penalty. 15th and 16th now.

Little Lando must have killed a couple hundred stewards and two dogs while he finished the circle. No words!

Nah it was like the comments he made two weeks before about Hamilton and Stroll that left the FIA speechless.

[CjC]

Wow we are sure regretting trying to run the intermediate tyre in full wet tyre conditions now

That’s basically the root of our disastrous day. Have none of the Mclaren strategists ever listened to Martin Brundle when he says ‘be on the right tyre at the right time’.

Mclaren have dropped the ball big time since Sainz scored his P2 in Monza

[kfrantzios]

That is the problem with the FIA these last 20 years. Rules and Penalties are enforced in Mclaren only in mass. Meanwhile they are doing secret meetings to decide rules with favored teams (Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull), rename illegalities into loopholes, let B Teams exist, let copy cars exist and are afraid to penalise favorites because they will threaten to leave. On the other hand Mclaren suffered an economic breakdown because of the Spygate while others have escaped in similar situations, forced to lose most of their good personnel to Mercedes and their star driver, recieves no respect as the second biggest team in the sport with the second biggest fanbase around the world and I wonder how many more years are they gonna pass by before they return to a World Championship Challenge.

Your excuses after every poor qualifying or race are so draining and boring it’s unbelievable. Do you actually believe the sh*t you write? It was a bad day at the office for McLaren, every team has them from time to time yet you always bring up old stories which have no relation to that days performance or say it’s because of other teams luck rather than praise other teams for doing a good job.

You make this thread unbearable and unreadable over race weekends!!

Just ignore said user. click on his nick name and then hit ignore.

[ALO_Power]

How is that going to help instead of fine tuning?

Maybe has to do with the chassis parts' homologation for next year.

That's good and all but are we gonna have an advantage for next year compared to our rivals?

I assume the goal is to prepare for next season as well as possible, since all of the chassis dev tokens will get spent for the engine change. The Merc P.U could be an advantage, especially for race pace and reliability but the integration gotta happen smoothly (which seems it will, according to some early comments from the team) and also try not to stay still, compared to the rivals which can use the tokens for performance. Let's wait and see.

[Darth-Piekus]

That is the problem with the FIA these last 20 years. Rules and Penalties are enforced in Mclaren only in mass. Meanwhile they are doing secret meetings to decide rules with favored teams (Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull), rename illegalities into loopholes, let B Teams exist, let copy cars exist and are afraid to penalise favorites because they will threaten to leave. On the other hand Mclaren suffered an economic breakdown because of the Spygate while others have escaped in similar situations, forced to lose most of their good personnel to Mercedes and their star driver, recieves no respect as the second biggest team in the sport with the second biggest fanbase around the world and I wonder how many more years are they gonna pass by before they return to a World Championship Challenge.

Your excuses after every poor qualifying or race are so draining and boring it’s unbelievable. Do you actually believe the sh*t you write? It was a bad day at the office for McLaren, every team has them from time to time yet you always bring up old stories which have no relation to that days performance or say it’s because of other teams luck rather than praise other teams for doing a good job.

You make this thread unbearable and unreadable over race weekends!!

Just ignore said user. click on his nick name and then hit ignore.

Whoever disagrees with my opinion is free to ignore me. I won't mind. It's better than doing personal attacks just because they are easier than actually refuting points. I want to express my opinion for once without fearing that someone may be butthurt from it.

[Shader]

I think we just lost 3rd and 4th place in constructors... Grid Penalties for both McLarens.... starting from the back, without competitive car. Pretty hopeless.

[Darth-Piekus]

Perhaps they should have taken a grid penalty to change everything.

[Chicane]

Mercedes failed to generate heat in to the tyres and have under-performed. ferrari struggled with the same issue. Yes Mclaren need to improve but today it was all about tyres in extremely unusual slippery conditions. You cannot prepare for track conditions like this where neither in dry or wet it was all about hanging on to dear life and hoping for the best. You do not prepare the car for random weekends like this.

Today it was all about tyre temperature and hence the best car on the grid ended up in 6th and ninth, especially Lewis one of the best wet weather specialists of all time. You do not judge pure car performance on conditions and track surface like we saw today. you get one or two unusual weekends like this in a season so i am not too fussed about that what i am worried is that the new front wing has not made it's appearance after Sochi which shows Mclaren still need to work on their correlation.

[diffuser]

Norris 5-place grid penalty. 15th and 16th now.

At this point, if I were Mclaren I would be introducing new complete PU’s for tomorrow’s race and start from the back of the grid... Having new PU’s for the last 3 races.


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Good idea

[McG]

Do they even have 2 new engines available to do that?

[diffuser]

Do they even have 2 new engines available to do that?

Renault would have to.

We also don't know what the state of the last 2 PUs for for both McLaren drivers are. I remember the 2 exhaust failures but those were fixable.

The first PU for each driver they used for 5-7 races. The 2nd one for each driver, I don't know. Think they're both on their 3ird PU. They've each been used atleast 3 races. Presuming, they haven't switch back to the 2nd PU.

[mclaren111]

Good thing it’s an early start tomorrow, the nightmare will end quicker. We seem lost, seriously lost! I really hope there’s a good reason for this. There’s less money this year to dole out, so maybe 3rd this year is worth sacrificing for 3rd next year, when hopefully, there’ll be more prize money. I really hope they’re banking on 2021.

Is it possible that they decided to sacrifice 3rd and 4th position for a chance to use this year as a test year to develop the 2021 car and maybe take the fight to 2nd?

It looks like it to me... Making an aero philosophy change now and taking the pain now seems best as the focus on 2022 will start early... Thus 2021 can also be tricky splitting recources correctly...

[michl420]

Why are all so negativ. In a normal race the speed is there for P5+P6. The problem is, the last normal race was monza. We need heat and fast corners.

[ScottR267]

Key here could be the long game here, keep out of danger and hopefully it plays dividends towards the end of the race. Fingers crossed l

[ScottR267]

Great comeback on Sunday for the team. 13 points more than Renault. Racing Point only gained a further 6 points than us today despite their starting positions! Great day at the office after a poor Saturday