2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

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Fulcrum wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:50
I think the "Peak" Hamilton epoch is over. Another mistake, and quite a desperate one. He could have simply brought the car home in second for 15 relatively safe points. Just goes to show what pressure can do to anyone.

Bottas really needs to go though.
it wasnt a mistake on track. he literally accidently flip 1 small lever and that caused it. same with rosberg 2016 in spain.
it was not a banzai divebomb on perez.

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grubschumi13 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:10
dans79 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:09
grubschumi13 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:07


Speak for yourself, I want this F1. I am enjoying watching it so much more than the last 7 years of utter domination by Mercedes.
I'm going to have to disagree with this, because I don't think a driver's life is worth additional entertainment.
No one knows the cause yet of these deflations. You are jumping to conclusions too soon.
Red Bull said they had no indications of any issue to the tire. They also called the race director and basically asked them to throw a red flag on the grounds of safety.

two left rear tires failing in such a similar way is very suspect.
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fritticaldi wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:56
Who wants this F1. ? These races are far too dependant on tyres. The tyres are made to self destruct to add excitement and unpredictability. We saw today that a driver can get seriously hurt. F1 needs another tyre manufacturer to make a tyre war. Shame on Pirelli for providing unworthy tyres.
You can say that. For whatever reason the other tender, which was from Hankook, was rejected by Formula One Management. :?:

Bridgestone, Goodyear/Dunlop, Continental and Michelin did not tender for some reason. I suppose Yokohama (who supply Super Formula slicks), Avon Cooper, Vredstein, Uniroyal, Falken, Giti, Nankang, Kuhmo, Nexen and so on could've tendered too but also chose not to. :wtf:
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cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:13
Fulcrum wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:50
I think the "Peak" Hamilton epoch is over. Another mistake, and quite a desperate one. He could have simply brought the car home in second for 15 relatively safe points. Just goes to show what pressure can do to anyone.

Bottas really needs to go though.
it wasnt a mistake on track. he literally accidently flip 1 small lever and that caused it. same with rosberg 2016 in spain.
it was not a banzai divebomb on perez.
Exactly you can see that. Hamilton is ahead and on the inside before the braking zone. There is zero reason to try and outbrake Perez the job was already done.

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cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:11
ispano6 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:49
Doofus Hamilton. Typical Mercedes implosion. After making all those changes during the red flag. Go Checo and Pierre!
there were no changes. magic is SOP for starts and as the radio recorded, it was accidentally activated. stop over dramatising it.
No changes? Broken front wing, unscrewing and removing the bodywork panels to change or address God knows what. At first I was pissed they just didn't let the race end on yellow, but I couldn't be happier that the red flag and restart guided Karma back to our side lol!

BTW, the drama was when Max was robbed of the victory. He clearly was the class of the field.
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Max second time (last year Imola) that a tire that is supposed to be fine, and seemingly was, killed his race. I was totally down, sweating from the utter bad feeling. But at least in the end Hamilton did not profit. Al though I am still dissapointed from the win down the drain it at least is on still for the WDC for now. But a great opportunity lost.

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ispano6 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:18
cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:11
ispano6 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:49
Doofus Hamilton. Typical Mercedes implosion. After making all those changes during the red flag. Go Checo and Pierre!
there were no changes. magic is SOP for starts and as the radio recorded, it was accidentally activated. stop over dramatising it.
No changes? Broken front wing, unscrewing and removing the bodywork panels to change or address God knows what. At first I was pissed they just didn't let the race end on yellow, but I couldn't be happier that the red flag and restart guided Karma back to our side lol!

BTW, the drama was when Max was robbed of the victory. He clearly was the class of the field.
your bias is clearly obvious. the front wing was changed because the nose cone was damaged. looking at the dent it couldve been a rock or debris thrown at it. NOT A MISTAKE. if it was ham wouldve dnfed.
youre naive to think that merc was the only car that made changes. EVERYONE did. and perez was lucky to even cross the line. had it been a SC only his engine wouldnt have been able to cool down and may have popped on lap 50/51.

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RZS10 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:11
nzjrs wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:03
falonso81 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 16:58
If Perez doesnt have enough fuel does it mean Seb wins?
RB was asking Perez to fail sensors on the last laps, so I think it's an engine problem rather than fuel.
Loss of hydraulic pressure apparently
That has to be somewhat concerning for Honda and Red Bull. They have had a lot of minor reliability issues so far this year!
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Sieper wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:19
Max second time (last year Imola) that a tire that is supposed to be fine, and seemingly was, killed his race. I was totally down, sweating from the utter bad feeling. But at least in the end Hamilton did not profit. Al though I am still dissapointed from the win down the drain it at least is on still for the WDC for now. But a great opportunity lost.
On performance and lack of mistakes Max should be leading the championship by a much larger margin, but the next couple of races with two at RedBull ring should suit RedBull more. He is champion caliber. With the championship so close who needs sprint races.

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dans79 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:24
RZS10 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:11
nzjrs wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:03


RB was asking Perez to fail sensors on the last laps, so I think it's an engine problem rather than fuel.
Loss of hydraulic pressure apparently
That has to be somewhat concerning for Honda and Red Bull. They have had a lot of minor reliability issues so far this year!
Phew! Close call, good thing the race wasn't 52 laps!

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What an absurd race. I absolutely loved it!
#AeroFrodo

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cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:23
the front wing was changed because the nose cone was damaged. looking at the dent it couldve been a rock or debris thrown at it. NOT A MISTAKE. if it was ham wouldve dnfed.
I didn't see anything on the nose, but the the right front main plane had what looked like a hole in it.

Changing it is something that has to be done for safety. It's not just about Lewis's safety either, because if it breaks off at speed, it could cause a multi car accident with everyone being so close after the restart.

The front Wing is also shaped in a way that it could go right through the openings in the Halo and hit a driver.
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dans79 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:15
grubschumi13 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:10
dans79 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:09


I'm going to have to disagree with this, because I don't think a driver's life is worth additional entertainment.
No one knows the cause yet of these deflations. You are jumping to conclusions too soon.
Red Bull said they had no indications of any issue to the tire. They also called the race director and basically asked them to throw a red flag on the grounds of safety.

two left rear tires failing in such a similar way is very suspect.
And how does that conclusively indicate it is a Pirelli fault? You are clutching at straws. Lets wait for Pirelli to investigate and then conclude. There is no need to accuse them before you know all the facts.

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cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:23
ispano6 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:18
cplchanb wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:11


there were no changes. magic is SOP for starts and as the radio recorded, it was accidentally activated. stop over dramatising it.
No changes? Broken front wing, unscrewing and removing the bodywork panels to change or address God knows what. At first I was pissed they just didn't let the race end on yellow, but I couldn't be happier that the red flag and restart guided Karma back to our side lol!

BTW, the drama was when Max was robbed of the victory. He clearly was the class of the field.
your bias is clearly obvious. the front wing was changed because the nose cone was damaged. looking at the dent it couldve been a rock or debris thrown at it. NOT A MISTAKE. if it was ham wouldve dnfed.
youre naive to think that merc was the only car that made changes. EVERYONE did. and perez was lucky to even cross the line. had it been a SC only his engine wouldnt have been able to cool down and may have popped on lap 50/51.
When did I say Mercedes was the only team to make changes? Never. Don't be one of those people who put words in other people's mouth.

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turbof1 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 17:27
What an absurd race. I absolutely loved it!
Yeah, haha, I hated it this time around, like many times before here, but yes Baku is always a spectacle.

This street circuits are a debris issue. Due to the walls It stays on the track and makes it a lottery.