2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

[djones]

Frankly the vaccinated folks should be required to submit a negative test as well. The vaccine doesn't prevent carrying or transmitting the virus. So then if you are admitting non-vax you are potentially putting them at risk. Not to mention the potential to propagate at the track and then carry outside to the wider public.

Or require a vaccine passport to attend, thereby also incentivising more folks to get vaccinated and hence better protecting everyone. These last 10 per cent or so of vaccinations are vital to actually reach a herd immunity and going to be hard to fill unless it’s actually required in order to go back to ‘normal’.

In other news, channel 4 in the UK showing extended previews of the silly little skits and features they’ve got coming up *during a session*…. Yeah, who wants to see the cars when I can see a man in fake beard driving a taxi while talking rubbish to Max?

There are many people that cannot have the vaccination, even if they wanted it. Everybody should have to show a negative result at events like this.

I personally know of two people that had both jabs, one ended up in hospital (was out in 2 days) and the other was very ill for almost 3 weeks. The vaccination does not give people some sort of immunity to being ill.

Also, there was a statistic a few weeks back and out of 100 patients that died in hospital, around 40% of tham had been given both jabs, 60% had been given either one or both and the rest no jabs.

Despite the ultra marketing campaign from the likes of Pfizer (who incidentally are now saying THREE jabs might be needed) Covid still hurts and kills vaccinated people.

Therefore... I think its only right EVERYBODY should have to show a negative test.

[jjn9128]

Been looking at the rules, I think they are limited to front wing, brakes and suspension. Would be strange ommiting rear wing angle with all that though.

Normal part ferme applies. Can change brake blanking, tyre pressures and front wing flap.

From the official F1 website;

"The cars will then enter Parc Ferme after FP1, before being released for FP2, which will take place on Saturday morning. "

"They will then return to Parc Ferme ahead of F1 Sprint, before being placed back in the quarantined environment overnight ahead of Sunday’s race."

Lots of contradicting info going around, but it looks like there are completely free to make changes.

I'm looking in the latest sporting regs cars are in parc ferme until lap 1 of the race on Sunday. This is the only extra provision I can see

At each Event where a sprint qualifying session is scheduled, and in addition to the provisions of Article 34.2 above, other than when cars are sealed overnight in accordance with Article 34.4 below, the following work may be carried out:
a) The following items may be replaced with components of the same specification:
i) Brake Discs and Caliper pads
ii) Engine Exhaust System
iii) Engine Oil Filters
iv) Intake Air filter
v) Spark plugs

[TheRacingElf]

Yep, I really hate this new format…

[jjn9128]

Yep, I really hate this new format…

At least wait until after "THE SPRINT"

[InsaneX_Badger]

Only saw the last 10 minutes, what were the long race pace of red bull and Merc like? Heard the Mercs ran well on old softs.

[mkay]

Only saw the last 10 minutes, what were the long race pace of red bull and Merc like? Heard the Mercs ran well on old softs.

Yep. But Max was lapping 1 second/lap faster than Lewis on hards though.

https://i.redd.it/x7drfmgwjrb71.png

[101FlyingDutchman]

There is no way the difference is 1sec so clearly just fuel load difference. Impossible to read anything into that

[jjn9128]

Only saw the last 10 minutes, what were the long race pace of red bull and Merc like? Heard the Mercs ran well on old softs.

Yep. But Max was lapping 1 second/lap faster than Lewis on hards though.

https://i.redd.it/x7drfmgwjrb71.png

Will be interesting. I think the prevailing theory for Hamilton being on pole was tow plus cooling temps meant Red Bull understeered more. So as THE SPRINT is going to be in cooling conditions again could be Merc look better relative to Red Bull again. I think THE SPRINT will pretty much be decided by Wellington straight/Brooklands lap 1.

[Marty_Y]

There is no way the difference is 1sec so clearly just fuel load difference. Impossible to read anything into that

Agreed, also Lewis mentioned engine mode on the radio, so maybe they were being conservative with the PU.

Yesterday totally threw me, I was convinced Mercedes were going to be nowhere in qualifying and then they ended up P1 and P3.

[Marty_Y]

Only saw the last 10 minutes, what were the long race pace of red bull and Merc like? Heard the Mercs ran well on old softs.

Yep. But Max was lapping 1 second/lap faster than Lewis on hards though.

https://i.redd.it/x7drfmgwjrb71.png

Will be interesting. I think the prevailing theory for Hamilton being on pole was tow plus cooling temps meant Red Bull understeered more. So as THE SPRINT is going to be in cooling conditions again could be Merc look better relative to Red Bull again. I think THE SPRINT will pretty much be decided by Wellington straight/Brooklands lap 1.

Re. The tow, didn't Max follow Lewis out of the pits and run directly behind him in Q3, so if Lewis benefited from a tow off of Bottas, then Max would have been getting a tow from Lewis?

[Tvetovnato]

Yep. But Max was lapping 1 second/lap faster than Lewis on hards though.

https://i.redd.it/x7drfmgwjrb71.png

Will be interesting. I think the prevailing theory for Hamilton being on pole was tow plus cooling temps meant Red Bull understeered more. So as THE SPRINT is going to be in cooling conditions again could be Merc look better relative to Red Bull again. I think THE SPRINT will pretty much be decided by Wellington straight/Brooklands lap 1.

Re. The tow, didn't Max follow Lewis out of the pits and run directly behind him in Q3, so if Lewis benefited from a tow off of Bottas, then Max would have been getting a tow from Lewis?

Correct, same distance between Max and Lewis as between Lewis and Bottas. So there is basically the understeer that should be taken into account, which would make it about even.

[LHamilton]

Yeah, thus far the format is not really that nice, is it. Both Qualifying and FP2 have become more subdued since they both lack that spark because they don't offer the same value as it has done with the normal race format.

Qualifying: Interesting to see where people end up, but positions means less because of the 'Sprint' later on. So not the same hype.
FP2: Already in parc ferme, so no fine-tuning in regards to the setup. So you can't really change your car to benefit race preperation. You simply pound around getting some information, more so probably confirmation of what you already knew more than actually new information, since you did some long-runs already on Friday.

[dans79]

FP2: Already in parc ferme, so no fine-tuning in regards to the setup. So you can't really change your car to benefit race preperation. You simply pound around getting some information, more so probably confirmation of what you already knew more than actually new information, since you did some long-runs already on Friday.

They can change some stuff, but nothing substantial.

Basically it puts a lot more emphasis on what the guys do in the simulator before the race weakened, As FP1 and FP2 are more about gathering tire data and making small tweaks to the car than anything else.

[jjn9128]

Re. The tow, didn't Max follow Lewis out of the pits and run directly behind him in Q3, so if Lewis benefited from a tow off of Bottas, then Max would have been getting a tow from Lewis?

IIRC yes on the first run in Q3 but for the 2nd run Max was further back.

[mkay]

Only saw the last 10 minutes, what were the long race pace of red bull and Merc like? Heard the Mercs ran well on old softs.

Yep. But Max was lapping 1 second/lap faster than Lewis on hards though.

https://i.redd.it/x7drfmgwjrb71.png

Will be interesting. I think the prevailing theory for Hamilton being on pole was tow plus cooling temps meant Red Bull understeered more. So as THE SPRINT is going to be in cooling conditions again could be Merc look better relative to Red Bull again. I think THE SPRINT will pretty much be decided by Wellington straight/Brooklands lap 1.

Actually, temperatures are going to peak at around 3-4pm per the hourly forecast, so the sprint race might actually have warmer track temps than FP2.