Flexiwings 2024

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_cerber1 wrote:
24 Oct 2024, 12:03
organic wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 21:26
Do we have a comparison of the same angle of red bull at cota with an old one such as at Canada or somewhere else with similar downforce levels
https://iimg.su/i/zbvlX

https://iimg.su/i/gAZ8s

In fact, this topic was comical from the very beginning, that Red Bull's wings did not bend, only biased fans did not see this.
It is not about the top flap, but about the whole wing structure bending down. People keep on confusing this. Not even biased fans have said the RB top flap hasn't been bending. Hence why for me it looked like the Austin RB wing did not change vs previous races based on f1tv footage. Top flap bends in same way and I didn't see the whole wing bending down.

The new video from rikhart did show the full wing bending down, so a good question from Organic to also see that perspective from an older race like Canada.

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_cerber1 wrote:
24 Oct 2024, 13:00
organic wrote:
24 Oct 2024, 12:39
There is lots of room between an official protest and simply press chatter for things to happen

At the very least there was a lot of discussion and the FIA did at least agree to monitor flexing more closely. Iirc They also insinuated that they may change the rules regarding flexing FWs for 2025
Red Bull obviously also use a flexible wing and no formal protests have been lodged against other teams. So what is your complaint against McLaren or MB?
I am baffled by this, honestly. Can you tell me without laughing, after looking at the diverse videos in this thread that you consider what Red Bull has in any way similar to what the Mclaren wing is doing?

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only bit I could see from Lando during FP1 with some flowvis on the front corner. No front wing shots at all unfortunately all weekend
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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To alleviate this brittle situation, most engineers would simply recommend using less noodles instead of carbon fibre when making this front wing

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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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Vanja #66
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PapayaFan481 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 15:03
Here you go with that nonsense again. Point to us all please the races where McLaren were disqualified for running an illegal rear wing??

You can't because they didn't. Their wing passed all the required tests and so was legal. The rules were changed and they changed the wing.

This is no different than in previous years where Red Bull had to make changes mid season, or Ferrari had to make changes etc. It is the very core of F1 to push the rules wherever you can.
I'm not the person to change anyone's mind. Facts are:

- RBR reported the wing during the Spa weekend and FIA looked the other way
- RBR reported the wing during the Monza weekend and FIA looked the other way
- RBR, Mercedes and Ferrari reported the wing after the Baku race and FIA couldn't look the other way no more
- the wing was visibly flexing to previously unseen levels and constituted an illegal moveable aerodynamic device
- McLaren was forced (accepted, offered, whatever you like) to change the design of several wings, not just the clearly illegal one
- no rules, measuring procedures or guidelines were changed to force them to do it, FIA blatantly ignored this issue until Mercedes, Ferrari and general public pointed to it along with RBR

Make of that what you will. I acknowledge your disagreement on my view. I don't think it's necessary for you to point this out to me on every single occasion.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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Seems fia is artificially trying to help McLaren. There are to many questionable calls in the past months that make me think otherwise. Obviously a closer battle is better but it’s gotten to the point where it’s becoming obvious intential decisions are being made or not made in some cases.

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Seems fia is artificially trying to help McLaren. There are to many questionable calls in the past months that make me think otherwise. Obviously a closer battle is better but it’s gotten to the point where it’s becoming obvious intential decisions are being made or not made in some cases.