2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[venkyhere]

Your list of Alien talent currently in the grid exactly matches mine. It's usually 1 or 2 or atmost 3 in that list whom most people agree with each other as alien level. It's a 4/4 match between the two of us.

To be fair, it's not a hard conclusion to reach Tier 1B field is incredibly strong as well, other than those 3 I mentioned we also have Hulk, Albon and Bottas, while I'd even place Gasly and Ocon there. Perez, Ric (he used to be an alien-pretender in 2014-18 for me), Mag and Tsunoda as Tier 2 and the rest are Tier 3 in my view.

most underrated - Hulk
easily chickens out from a risky move - Bottas
bull in a china shop, no concept of risk v/s reward equation - Magnussen, Ocon
can squeeze every inch out of damaged/dying car/tyres - Max, Lewis, Alonso, Ocon
qualifying monster who will go 101% no matter what - LeClerc

[Xyz22]

So according to Leclerc they are 0.25s behind RB at its best.
He also said that they can still extract more from the upgrade package, up to 0.1s and therefore be around 0.15s from RB.

[yooogurt]

So according to Leclerc they are 0.25s behind RB at its best.
He also said that they can still extract more from the upgrade package, up to 0.1s and therefore be around 0.15s from RB.

In Imola on the first stint on the medium it was noticeable that the bulls are still ahead, but because of the suboptimal setup for the hard (Horner also said that not testing the hard in practices was a bad idea), it looked like the rivals were closer than they actually were.

[Vanja #66]

In Imola on the first stint on the medium it was noticeable that the bulls are still ahead, but because of the suboptimal setup for the hard (Horner also said that not testing the hard in practices was a bad idea), it looked like the rivals were closer than they actually were.

Ferrari was also carrying more drag than RB and McLaren in Imola, so their setup was suboptimal as well. If the gap per lap in the race to Max is no more than 2-2.5 tenths in Barcelona, it will confirm Ferrari have made a step up. Canada is resurfaced and this will help RB, but there will be lots of rain this weekend and we won't get a clear picture most likely

[SoulPancake13]

So according to Leclerc they are 0.25s behind RB at its best.
He also said that they can still extract more from the upgrade package, up to 0.1s and therefore be around 0.15s from RB.

Charles also said that he thinks the next upgrade package could put them ahead of Red Bull. Let's see how it goes, after this weekend there will Spain, Austria, and then Silverstone where the next upgrades are supposed to arrive.

[ringo]

All this only holds if Redbull stand still.
They are due soms upgrades for europe I am sure.

[Seanspeed]

Likely that CS will now be on team orders if they are to fully exploit chasing MV with CL this season for drivers championship.

They dont need to let that slip away if there's any choices to make between their own two drivers.

Beating Max will require something extra special. I think WCC is probably a more achievable, thought still difficult aim. And in that case, you want to use team orders only to help team result, not any specific driver.

Exactly.

They are close to just one DNF from RB to being on par. I don't think any of the teams would ignore a chance, even a small one, to shoot at driver's world championship.

Sense of reality is to push for all scores to be CL biased if there's choice to do so in the race.

They'll be kicking themselves come year end otherwise.

I really dont think they're gonna sacrifice the more realistic(though still potentially not that realistic) aim just to go for a complete moon shot chance of beating Max instead.

And if Ferrari are just going to start swapping around their drivers in any race where Sainz is ahead of Leclerc, they're gonna start looking pretty ugly very quickly, especially so early in the season. And it'll look especially horrible if the car just ends up not quick enough to challenge for the WDC in the end anyways, making it all for nothing.

There's downsides to demoting one of your drivers to permanent lapdog who isn't allowed to beat their teammate, too. It is a false premise that having a strict #1/#2 hierarchy is the best way to maximize points for the #1 driver, because that #2 driver can still be very useful if they stay competitive and can protect the #1 guy or get ahead of other rivals to reduce their points. But this isn't gonna happen if you humiliate them over and over and make it clear they're nothing but an expendable pawn.

[bluechris]

If this real info? I haven't saw that anywhere else

Ferrari SF-24: rear suspension update to find more traction at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve | 2024 Canada GP

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-sf-24- ... canada-gp/

[Sphere3758]

If this real info? I haven't saw that anywhere else

Ferrari SF-24: rear suspension update to find more traction at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve | 2024 Canada GP

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-sf-24- ... canada-gp/

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10620445/

[Seanspeed]

If this real info? I haven't saw that anywhere else

Ferrari SF-24: rear suspension update to find more traction at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve | 2024 Canada GP

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-sf-24- ... canada-gp/

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10620445/

So the other article is literally just the Google translation of this article, with literally no credit given to the original source.

Do people not have shame?

[Muramasa666]

If this real info? I haven't saw that anywhere else

Ferrari SF-24: rear suspension update to find more traction at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve | 2024 Canada GP

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-sf-24- ... canada-gp/

no updates

[Sevach]

I wouldn't discount Mercedes and other options just yet.

Toto is fixated on getting Max, they also have Antonelli to place somewhere and Russell is most likely at least as good as Sainz. Besides, Sainz was dropped by Ferrari to get Hamilton, so Mercedes replacing Hamilton with Ferrari's drop-off is not a good look for Mercedes brand...

No matter how good Sainz is, he's not an alien like Hamilton, Alonso, Max or Leclerc. Alien-pretenders include Norris, Piastri and Russell. That's 7 drivers most likely more desirable than Sainz and next year 5 of them will occupy the 3 best cars of 2024.

You are probably right, Toto would rather take a flyer on a (i think) overhyped prospect than admit this "L" and just put Sainz on the car to make a solid duo with Russell.

[Fakepivot]

so did they solve the tyre warmup issue? looked pretty confident in the car..

[dani5549]

so did they solve the tyre warmup issue? looked pretty confident in the car..

no way to know until quali, but the first run on inters and also on softs were pretty ok compared to the rest

[f1316]

Pretty incredible they managed to fit inters before the track was declared wet - schoolboy error. Really hope the FIA take a common sense pill and see that there was no advantage or issue, so give a warning at most. If it costs Charles a grid place and a possible win, that would be a major blunder.