2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

[mzivtins]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

[chrisc90]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

I’ve no idea. I’m not a driver. Guess he could have turned in tighter or slowed down more in order for the car in front the rights to the corner.

[Big Tea]

They should appeal the penalty points. The offence is black/white he did it, but he had little choice.
Full tanks, cool tyres etc

[f1jcw]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

I’ve no idea. I’m not a driver. Guess he could have turned in tighter or slowed down more in order for the car in front the rights to the corner.

Couldn’t turn tighter, was at edge of the track.

Need some overheads stills

[f1jcw]

They should appeal the penalty points. The offence is black/white he did it, but he had little choice.
Full tanks, cool tyres etc

This is a total contrast to last weeks "do what you want’

[Big Tea]

They should appeal the penalty points. The offence is black/white he did it, but he had little choice.
Full tanks, cool tyres etc

This is a total contrast to last weeks "do what you want’

Elaborate please? Dont follow you

[wogx]

Twitter world:

Drunk fans (Dutch fans according to reports - see the link below) showing totally unacceptable behaviour including groping women, racist chants, cat calling / wolf whistling women and even girls. Not good and I hope the FIA / Liberty do something about it - if the track's own security can't get in and evict these people, perhaps the track should lose its race. With the cameras around these days, I'm surprised they can't identify the perpetrators like they do in football these days.



F1 needs to stamp out this sort of thing - this is 2022, not 1972.

Do we have any evidence, or is this all based on one tweet?

Seriously
Open your eyes

Do we have any evidence, or is this all based on one tweet?

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The FIA has indeed issued a statement in response to this Tweet and the comments below.
They invited her and talked to her.

Read the tweet thread and there are plenty of individuals complaining. When you have people saying they won't go the race again, Liberty will be worried. Money talks.

She was the first to report it. Subsequently, the FIA took action and perhaps spoke to many more people.
There were many reactions to her post.

Reality:

Spielberg: "Surprisingly calm" according to the police
Contrary to reports on social media, the emergency services reported few problems at the Formula 1 in Spielberg on Sunday: there were no reports of sexual harassment. Overall, it was "surprisingly calm", according to the police.

On Twitter, there was an accumulation of posts over the weekend according to which women in particular had been verbally or physically harassed on the Ring grounds: One's attention had been drawn to "completely unacceptable comments", even Formula 1 announced on its official Twitter channel. "This behaviour is unacceptable and will not be tolerated," it said on Sunday.

- Formula 1 (@F1) July 10, 2022
On Twitter, several apparently female users reported lewd slurs, shouts, whistles, gestures or assaults. "The girl who sells ice cream (i.e. WORKS) is harassed non-stop by older drunk men. It's horrible," wrote one user.

Police: No assaults or incidents reported
Police said that no assaults or incidents of this kind had been reported to officers, but that it had been "surprisingly quiet" in view of the more than 300,000 guests.

https://steiermark.orf.at/stories/3164250/

[mzivtins]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

I’ve no idea. I’m not a driver. Guess he could have turned in tighter or slowed down more in order for the car in front the rights to the corner.

Neither of those things are possible, turning more pushes the tyre out of its operating grip window and would understeer aggressive (as seen by the gasley on board)

Slowing down involves either downshift or braking, in thescamerio where the car is at a grip limit the would have cause an oversteer moment which would have wiped both cars out.

This is racing cars for dummies, that's why it's frustrating, it's like they do not understand how a race car behaves and it plays into the hands of fans who are not racing fans, but instead social/celeb fans who only follow racing because they like a driver... Not the racing.

[Hammerfist]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

He could have braked. Once Perez got fully alongside and edged ahead george should be thinking how can i avoid contact there. This corner has been heavily policed the last few years and the car on the outside usually goes in the gravel and the guy on the inside gets penalized. Off the top of my head i remember Hamilton vs Albon 2020, Norris vs somebody in 2021 and this year there are two more. If it was me I would not even attempt an overtake on the outside there, it seems to always end badly. Perez should have been more patient.

[Watto]

They should appeal the penalty points. The offence is black/white he did it, but he had little choice.
Full tanks, cool tyres etc

This is a total contrast to last weeks "do what you want’

Elaborate please? Dont follow you

Last week they didn't really enforce any track limits at least nothing like last week They may have been too lenient last week but this week they were all over it

[f1jcw]

They should appeal the penalty points. The offence is black/white he did it, but he had little choice.
Full tanks, cool tyres etc

This is a total contrast to last weeks "do what you want’

Elaborate please? Dont follow you

Last week people were getting pushed off the grid left and right, no foul. George kept his line on the inside and was penalised. Different situations, but doesn’t seem consistent plus how many times have we being told clashes on the 1st lap are judged lenient.

[Big Tea]

This is a total contrast to last weeks "do what you want’

Elaborate please? Dont follow you

Last week people were getting pushed off the grid left and right, no foul. George kept his line on the inside and was penalised. Different situations, but doesn’t seem consistent plus how many times have we being told clashes on the 1st lap are judged lenient.

I agree. Above all rules have to be consistent. Although there will still be mile wide interpretation

[Watto]

Though the GR/SP incident was just a racing incident esp on lap 1. Don't know what GR options were really..

[mzivtins]

Those who say it wasn’t George’s fault…

What could gr have done? His corner was set and began before Perez went on the outside. What, within the laws of physics could gr have done?

That is what is frustrating. No driver could do anything

He could have braked. Once Perez got fully alongside and edged ahead george should be thinking how can i avoid contact there. This corner has been heavily policed the last few years and the car on the outside usually goes in the gravel and the guy on the inside gets penalized. Off the top of my head i remember Hamilton vs Albon 2020, Norris vs somebody in 2021 and this year there are two more. If it was me I would not even attempt an overtake on the outside there, it seems to always end badly. Perez should have been more patient.

How on earth can you brake whilst at the limit of lateral grip? A Tyre cannot magically offer up imaginary grip.

Sorry to say this but, is this a troll response? You are on an f1 technical forum and think any racing car ever made in history an just magic force applying grip out of nowhere when on the limit?

This is not the right sport for you or the right place to discuss if these core basic cencepts are missing. Stick Netflix

[f1jcw]

Though the GR/SP incident was just a racing incident esp on lap 1. Don't know what GR options were really..

He was as tight as he could be, so turning more wasn’t a option.

Brake, you are talking milliseconds of Perez getting in front. To suddenly brake halfway round a corner?
It seemed one of the clearest incidents of racing incident I’ve seen