2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

[TimW]

Tires could also be playing into Max' hands this year. The front tires are weaker than the rear. So protecting the fronts with an oversteery setup can be beneficial. And that happens to be a setup Max is known to be good with.

(And of course those tires are a conspiracy to help Max /s)

But you need a strong front to achieve an oversteery setup, reducing grip from the rear to intentionally make the rear slide will just be plain slow. Perez was closer to max early on because the RB had a "very" weak front for max' liking, now they've improved it and result is evident

You don't want to make it slide, but it you can have the rear closer to the limit (and allow a larger slip angle), as in you don't need to add to much downforce to stabilize it, that races you drag. If the rear tires are weaker, you need to add downforce to protect them, whether your driver needs it or not.

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Strategy as if vsc hadn't happened:

AMuS reports Toto has told them that the strategy had Max catching Lewis with 6 laps to go. Reports horner told them that max would catch with 15 to go. Naturally, we can assume it would've been 10.

Would have been hard to hold off Max for that long

[Mogster]

15 laps sounds a bit much.

However I don’t doubt Max would have caught Lewis by the end and the Red Bull’s speed off the banking would have made overtaking a formality. But we’ll never know.

[AMG.Tzan]

Can’t really understand why pit Russel! They should have let him defend from Verstapen and maybe Lewis could escape a bit! At least they would have got away with a 2-3!

Russel has got lucky on so many occasions this year and he’s never been truly faster than Lewis! Apart from that this is clearly Verstapen’s year….nothing seems to ever go wrong for him even with the VSC and SC! I expect him to achieve 15 wins this season and break the record!

[AMG.Tzan]

This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.

He never had a car like the F2002/F2004 or W05/W06/W07/W10/W11.

These cars never had so much clownery for competition.
Barichello, Bottas, Rosberg were better teamates too

True!

Verstapen has got Ferrari, Mercedes and Perez all either being not fast enough or doing strategic mistakes! Look at Spa…Perez started at the front and Max got him by lap 10 with exactly the same car! This never happened with Hamilton and Bottas or Rozberg or even Schumacher and Barrichello!

The Vettel - Red Bull days were by far the worst domination period for F1! A team so arrogant while winning, always having a beloved child and a number 2 driver who always looked not fast enough for the team!

Don’t get me wrong, Verstapen is a much better driver than Vettel was back then but the absence of any competition makes it way more boring…

[101FlyingDutchman]

He never had a car like the F2002/F2004 or W05/W06/W07/W10/W11.

These cars never had so much clownery for competition.
Barichello, Bottas, Rosberg were better teamates too

True!

Verstapen has got Ferrari, Mercedes and Perez all either being not fast enough or doing strategic mistakes! Look at Spa…Perez started at the front and Max got him by lap 10 with exactly the same car! This never happened with Hamilton and Bottas or Rozberg or even Schumacher and Barrichello!

The Vettel - Red Bull days were by far the worst domination period for F1! A team so arrogant while winning, always having a beloved child and a number 2 driver who always looked not fast enough for the team!

Don’t get me wrong, Verstapen is a much better driver than Vettel was back then but the absence of any competition makes it way more boring…

Exactly the same with Bottas as a no2 for HAM surely?

Fact is that in equal machinery the no 1 drivers pretty much destroy what are really capable F1 drivers. And de facto there seems to be a 1-2 hierarchy. Which clearly doesn’t exist as ROS proofed 1 year. But it destroyed him in the process.

Just doff your cap and appreciate the talent that we see on show. The ALOs/HAMs/VERs/NORs/LECs of this paddock have typically outshone their immediate competition

[chrisc90]

Did RB set a new fastest pit stop with Perez? 2.0seconds?

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Did RB set a new fastest pit stop with Perez? 2.0seconds?

Yes I believe dhl had it as 2.09 seconds..his pit crew are doing an excellent job

[vorticism]

Now make wheels that eject themselves just prior to the pit box and a mechanism or track to catch the car at height. Then they only need to install new wheels once the car is stationary. 1 s pit stops? Catching moving tires my be tricky. Four rugby players for that?

[langedweil]

This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.

I'd rather say 2014-2020 ..

[mendis]

Verstapen’s year….nothing seems to ever go wrong for him even with the VSC and SC! I expect him to achieve 15 wins this season and break the record!

It's a testimony for Red Bull strategy team. They do their homework right and have people that's impeccable in reading situations and taking best possible decisions. They are leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else in that space. Ferrari has no strategy team and Mercedes has one man that get's one out of hundred decisions right.

[e30ernest]

The Red Bull in Max' hands has been on another league this season. They've really capitalized on both their own pace and the mistakes of their rivals to build a huge gap this season. Kudos to them.

Every time I watch a race now, I watch just to see what Ferrari will get wrong. This could have been a race they could have won. They lost it when Leclerc made that mistake in qualifying and doubled down on it with bad pit calls. Don't get me wrong, Max was definitely imperious in his drive here, but Ferrari made it easier for him IMO. Sainz just imploded, his race was painful to watch as well.

Mercedes is almost there, but not quite. Those who think they could have won this is living in a fantasy world. Maybe if the full safety car did not happen they could have a chance. However, the likelihood of Lewis actually passing Max with that straight line speed deficit is pretty small IMO.

[saviour stivala]

But after the RBR sister car stopped on track after exiting pit lane some of the most brilliant British press were sure to have uncovered a ploy between RBR and its sister team which cost 44 that just one race win in a season.

[Cs98]

Pretty self-explanatory really. As to why his seat belt was loose, and why he thought a tyre was loose initially.

[FormulaOnceMore]

AMuS reported this morning, that Lewis has chosen the wrong motor mode for restart. (I dont want to start writing here as a basher, I just haven‘t read this information here yet) So bad luck combined with difficult tatctic…