2024 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 28 - 30

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Unc1eM0nty wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:41
What a dull race, top 10 finished where they started apart from the McLarens who swapped places.
Hope Sunday has more action
Perez lost a place to Leclerc as well but yea, pretty meh race at the second half

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I see no divebombs at all here. From Lando or Max.

If thats the precedent you want to stand with - Lando's move on Max into turn 3 was considerably worse than Max's into turn 4.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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dia6olo wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:34
Contrary to what some commentators think which is that we have a championship fight (Max & Lando), no chance, Lando needs a car that's a minimum 2 tenths quicker to beat Max.
Anything less and Max would still win most races even with a slower car!
They know that. They are just trying to sell it to sections of the public.

As for slower. They look quite even this week.

As for the sprint races...less said the better

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Federico Albano on twitter

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ToffeeTyres wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:37
If F1 had better tyres and not overheat that would have been better and main races better too. Not a fan of sprints
Races would be even more boring. Best races are when tires degrade faster.

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Max is in prime position to win the race tomorrow. Red Bull is a small notch above in terms of tyre management.

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Incredible performance by Max again. That lap 2 DRS is 100% aimed at making live hard for the pole sitter. But still he made it work.

Lap 2 drs is something we have never seen after drs was introduced. It makes racing even more gimmicky. Reduces pole.

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renault rs26 wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:46
ToffeeTyres wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:37
If F1 had better tyres and not overheat that would have been better and main races better too. Not a fan of sprints
Races would be even more boring. Best races are when tires degrade faster.
What I meant was about the overheating not the degradation. Drivers can’t fight fully for long when they overheat so much

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Sieper wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:53
Incredible performance by Max again. That lap 2 DRS is 100% aimed at making live hard for the pole sitter. But still he made it work.

Lap 2 drs is something we have never seen after drs was introduced. It makes racing even more gimmicky. Reduces pole.
Ironically the lap 2 DRS somewhat helps Red Bull overall. With their better heavy load pace than McLaren, if they start on pole max often pulls 1s on lap 1 of the GP. If Norris starts p1 then it's harder for him to do that and it lets RB use their advantage sooner

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organic wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 13:03
Sieper wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:53
Incredible performance by Max again. That lap 2 DRS is 100% aimed at making live hard for the pole sitter. But still he made it work.

Lap 2 drs is something we have never seen after drs was introduced. It makes racing even more gimmicky. Reduces pole.
Ironically the lap 2 DRS somewhat helps Red Bull overall. With their better heavy load pace than McLaren, if they start on pole max often pulls 1s on lap 1 of the GP. If Norris starts p1 then it's harder for him to do that and it lets RB use their advantage sooner
Has Max been able to take an early DRS advantage?

Max now hás to use his tires the first laps and that remains an advantage for the followers strategically the whole race.

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Sieper wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 13:11
organic wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 13:03
Sieper wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:53
Incredible performance by Max again. That lap 2 DRS is 100% aimed at making live hard for the pole sitter. But still he made it work.

Lap 2 drs is something we have never seen after drs was introduced. It makes racing even more gimmicky. Reduces pole.
Ironically the lap 2 DRS somewhat helps Red Bull overall. With their better heavy load pace than McLaren, if they start on pole max often pulls 1s on lap 1 of the GP. If Norris starts p1 then it's harder for him to do that and it lets RB use their advantage sooner
Has Max been able to take an early DRS advantage?

Overtake on Russell at Barcelona is one

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Tire update. Everyone but Sauber took used Mediums for the sprint

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Juzh wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:36
Perez solid 7 tenths slower than Max on average on a 1 min 10s lap and unable to keep pace with ferrari ahead. mega performance
Actually, if you see, it's been a consistent thing : when the top 4 cars are closer to each other than ever before, probably in the entire history of the sport -> most skillfull driver in top 4 teams finishes 1st, least skillful driver in the top 4 teams finishes 8th. I think this is all Redbull want, they aren't interested in WCC, they just want WDC.


organic wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:46
Federico Albano on twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPB87gW0AI ... &name=orig
isn't there a hint of more deg for McLaren than Redbull ? or are my eyes tricking me ?


organic wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:16
Lap 4-5 was a Verstappen masterclass. Norris was ahead with DRS towards T4 and went to P3
agree completely. Honestly, I wasn't expecting VER to win the sprint. To drive the opening 10 laps without DRS, on a track with 3 DRS zones, with just 10 corners, with two McLarens behind gaining 0.3-0.4 every lap on straights, it meant that he had to 'create the gap that would be sacrificed to DRS' through the quick direction change high speed turns 6-7-8-9. Which he did.

Something which impressed me most was the reaction to NOR divebomb in 3. There was a moment VER had to stop the car momentarily, inorder to not hit the left rear of NOR because he too braked abruptly. It was not an over-under move, NOR guarded against over-under by placing his car in the middle of the corner (the upward slope at 3 helping massively). Still, from 3 to 4 VER drove in the slipstream of DRS-ing NOR and pounced on the door left open at 4. It was clean racing, but it was also a skill show.

VER is battle hardened with one-on-ones. Six more months of these two dogfighting, and NOR will hone his racecraft and become proper WDC material.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 14:03
organic wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 12:46
Federico Albano on twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPB87gW0AI ... &name=orig
isn't there a hint of more deg for McLaren than Redbull ? or are my eyes tricking me ?
It seems more like Piastri was slowing Norris down.
A lion must kill its prey.

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When are the Haas drivers not allowed to come to a race, because every race they are breaking the rules. Someone neede to tell them the whole team isnt welcome anymore