His future car just smashed the field. He won’t care about this horror show, which was not of his doing anyway.
Max went to the hospital for one of those precautionary cranial nerve exams you see in asmr videos, was released a couple of hours later because he was fine and then he posted on twitter - yet his fans act as if he was hospitalized on life support.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:52The only reason no other driver “ended up in the hospital” (he just went for the mandatory check meanwhile but Max fans will depict it as if he was hospitalized in a comma) while racing Max is because the rest of the drivers take something called “avoiding action” when being on the outside of Verstapen at least!purestpurist wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:44Imagine how angry you would be if Max and Lando were in a close title fight, Max did the same maneuver into a 280+ kmh corner, sent Lando to the hospital, only received a slap on the wrist, and raved like a madman.GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:30I guess if theres one driver who deserves to experience Maxs style of driving, its Lando Norris. His biggest fan. He loves it, after all. Just not when hes on the receiving end.
I wonder if he'll be seen raving with Max after this season as he was in the aftermath of 2021.
I don't think the penalty was justified (at least not without also giving Max a penalty for forcing him wide), but you have to remember the other side feels just as much contempt for you as you do for them.
That glorious for f1 day Maxy boy didn’t want to take “avoiding action”! He wanted to play it tough around the outside of a Hamilton racing in his own backyard! So guess what! He got a pretty nice taste of his own medicine!
Hamilton’s penalty was way more than he deserved really! It was lap 1, no driver giving an inch…pretty simple racing accident! Max has been doing these “lap 1 - all in” maneuvers for years with no penalties whatsoever…
That does not matter. The rule is objective, ahead or not. Why he got there is subjective and subjective people here want objective ruling.chrstphrln wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:33But Max was only ahead at the apex because he braked far too late.
Well, that is also a subjective claim. Not sure if anyone can answer this, maybe not even Lando with his cooking tires at this point.
No. This may be subjectively honest, but is objectively just wrong Vanja
No one wants to read your nonsense posts. At this line I stop.
No, that is by no means subjective.basti313 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 10:38That does not matter. The rule is objective, ahead or not. Why he got there is subjective and subjective people here want objective ruling.chrstphrln wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:33But Max was only ahead at the apex because he braked far too late.
Change the rules again to make it even more objective -> people here will fight more as they are not intelligent enough to understand it anymore.
Well, that is also a subjective claim. Not sure if anyone can answer this, maybe not even Lando with his cooking tires at this point.
Because it is always the same crap what you are writing, singing the same song.. Hamilton is great and Verstappen sucks.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:45I’ve written it a thousand times but no one wants to listen!
Verstapen did exactly the same move on Sainz at the exact same turn while Sainz was ahead at the apex! No penalties there though! Just because it’s lap 1 it doesn’t mean you can do whatever you like I guess…
I’ve said in the past and I’m gonna say it again! The FIA has been playing it blind against Max for years now since 2016! I don’t know what they’re trying to achieve? Keep him entertained so that he doesn’t retire and f1 loses his fans maybe? I don’t know really…
Moving under braking, going over pit exit lines, going over the grid starting box, pushing other drivers off the track while being miles behind them, leaving no one car’s width when racing wheel to wheel!
All these stuff have been penalized in the past and drivers have gotten penalties for way less! I don’t see this changing anytime soon! But! If one day the head of the FIA and the stewarding panel changes…don’t get shocked if Max starts receiving penalties race after race…
And then his classic “f1 is boring now, I’ll just retire” quote will start surfacing again…
There's nothing subjective about the fact that Max left the track while defending the inside.basti313 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 10:38That does not matter. The rule is objective, ahead or not. Why he got there is subjective and subjective people here want objective ruling.chrstphrln wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:33But Max was only ahead at the apex because he braked far too late.
Surely there’s a better image to give some actual context to that discussion? That pic shows nothing, not even the corner apex
Feel free to find one. It's literally the apex view. The point is moot, Sainz left the track trying to overtake and would have been penalised if he didn't return the position even if it was Lap 1 incident. My point is that it's not the same situstion as Lap 52 incident
I’ll have a look later. See what I can find.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 11:08Feel free to find one. It's literally the apex view. The point is moot, Sainz left the track trying to overtake and would have been penalised if he didn't return the position even if it was Lap 1 incident. My point is that it's not the same situstion as Lap 52 incident
No, but does not matter.
Yes. But you want subjective ruling. Now it is subjective, not "intelligent".
You can not ask for rule changes every year again and then compare to last years with different rules. That is also not "intelligent".
Why? Everyone needs to stay in track limits, that rule is there and enough. It does simply not need rules to judge offroad racing in F1.
I can not see these pictures due to company network...but I do not need them. In the Youtube recap of Sky Germany you can see the onboard of Sainz. There you constantly see the left front of Verstappen ahead. They of course both went deep into the corner, maybe making the view difficult, but to my understanding they judge the normal apex and that was quite early in the corner for them.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 11:08Feel free to find one. It's literally the apex view. The point is moot, Sainz left the track trying to overtake and would have been penalised if he didn't return the position even if it was Lap 1 incident. My point is that it's not the same situstion as Lap 52 incident
basti313 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 10:38That does not matter. The rule is objective, ahead or not. Why he got there is subjective and subjective people here want objective ruling.chrstphrln wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:33But Max was only ahead at the apex because he braked far too late.
Change the rules again to make it even more objective -> people here will fight more as they are not intelligent enough to understand it anymore.
Well, that is also a subjective claim. Not sure if anyone can answer this, maybe not even Lando with his cooking tires at this point.
No. This may be subjectively honest, but is objectively just wrong Vanja
Sainz never had anything ahead, he simply was too far away.
But nice example, how we need to argue about cm at the apex...shows how good the rule is.
No one wants to read your nonsense posts. At this line I stop.
“That does not matter.”chrstphrln wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 09:33But Max was only ahead at the apex because he braked far too late.