2017 Mexico Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 27-29 October

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Restomaniac wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 17:55
Which begs the question about the drivers. If they are having to work so much harder in these cars how will they cope with the extra workload and less oxygen at altitude.
The circuit sits at 7,340ft or 2237M and that's not that bad. Lots of distance runners train in cities at similar altitudes, and they are pushing their aerobic system way harder than the drivers are.
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dans79 wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:23
Restomaniac wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 17:55
Which begs the question about the drivers. If they are having to work so much harder in these cars how will they cope with the extra workload and less oxygen at altitude.
The circuit sits at 7,340ft or 2237M and that's not that bad. Lots of distance runners train in cities at similar altitudes, and they are pushing their aerobic system way harder than the drivers are.
But they're not sitting in a sauna while running.
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TAG wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:29
But they're not sitting in a sauna while running.
They don't need to, then run hard enough that they can have heat strokes. if you've ever seen or been an elite level runner, you would know they can get even more dehydrated than the drivers can.
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Just for the record.

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Well at least it will be dry and room temperature ambient to counteract that 2% drop in air density.
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dans79 wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:42
TAG wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:29
But they're not sitting in a sauna while running.
They don't need to, then run hard enough that they can have heat strokes. if you've ever seen or been an elite level runner, you would know they can get even more dehydrated than the drivers can.
Unlike an F1 driver, they can drink all the liquids they want and they can pour water over themselves all day long. Not disputing the long distance running thing, but humans are evolved for long distance running, we've got lots of mechanism to help our bodies cope with it. Tell me a long distance runner that has forgone drinking water for the lenght of time it took to run a marathon in order to save weight.
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I found this link (from 2015) concerning the altitude of the Mexico circuit:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/feat ... itude.html

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TAG wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 19:37
dans79 wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:42
TAG wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 18:29
But they're not sitting in a sauna while running.
They don't need to, then run hard enough that they can have heat strokes. if you've ever seen or been an elite level runner, you would know they can get even more dehydrated than the drivers can.
Unlike an F1 driver, they can drink all the liquids they want and they can pour water over themselves all day long. Not disputing the long distance running thing, but humans are evolved for long distance running, we've got lots of mechanism to help our bodies cope with it. Tell me a long distance runner that has forgone drinking water for the lenght of time it took to run a marathon in order to save weight.
And a long distance runner that hasn't 5g loads placed on his/her body for 2 HOURS.
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godlameroso wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 19:33
Well at least it will be dry and room temperature ambient to counteract that 2% drop in air density.
TWENTY percent. Big difference. Simple maths.

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Runners are.

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Anyone think the cars can hit 352kph like last year, I don't, I think they'll top out at 347, unless they get a tow. And even being 7kph slower in the straights the cars will be nearly 3 seconds a lap faster which is a lot considering it's a short lap. Starting race pace will be faster than the cars were able to manage at all during the race, mid 21's ending with 19's.
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If there is going to blow out a Merc engine, this will be the race it could happen.

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George-Jung wrote:
25 Oct 2017, 02:34
If there is going to blow out a Merc engine, this will be the race it could happen.
I think this is also the track where Ferrari will have the highest chance of blowing a turbo.
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George-Jung wrote:
25 Oct 2017, 02:34
If there is going to blow out a Merc engine, this will be the race it could happen.
Lewis needs to come in fifth place. I think the Merc PU from back in China can get Lewis his 4th WDC. ;)
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SectorOne wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 17:12
Vasconia wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 16:01
Based on what you say and taking into account that Mercedes and Ferrari has the most powerful(and perhaps efficient PUs) should they have an advantage on this track?
He´s saying it´s the same deal for everyone regardless of air density.
They will all have less horsepower but the ratio between the engines will stay the same.
I know, that even being the same cause, this cause could affect diferently(at a bigger or lesser grade) depending of your PU and package(more/less efficiency, cooling systems,etc). Just asking.

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I'm going for the same, well more or less podium than @ COTA.

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Verstappen