2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 07:51
I love how morons like Nico Rosberg are making all these outlandish claims about Max being better than Lewis on the basis of one qualifying and one bad race that Lewis had.. I mean, FFS, Lewis has almost a hundred poles!!!

Just for the record, I'm a Verstappen fan and have zero inclination towards Hamilton, just respect. I guess that's life. Some people (Rosberg) luck into something (his WDC) and then feel inclined to judge and sway common perception on the basis of that power of achievement. For me, people like him and even worse, that moron called Jolyon Palmer are trolls and should be kept far away from broadcasting.
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AJI wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 05:04
Restomaniac wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 02:10
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I assume all engine manufactures have now gone down the Mercedes route of splitting the turbine from the compressor?
I'm pretty sure Renault and Ferrari still have the turbine and compressor together?
Thanks.

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Sevach wrote:
What worries me for Verstappen is exactly how bad his starts have been, hopefully they addressed it.
Mercedes problems are, i think they'll need to make a call on Bottas>Hamilton or be vulnerable to the Ferraris trying some creative tactics.
The best race will be if Max's software decides he needs less revs as he drops the clutch, again, won't it, but yes otherwise Valtteri will lose his tyres first so they'll do the undercut with him and it's a question how far back he is.

I don't think Mercedes will swap them unless it's really bad, and then they'll leave it until it's too late.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 00:05
There a number of things apart from the start (which have been horrible so far this year) that RB/Honda have to worry about.

-a divebomb into turn 1 or 2
-even if they manage to keep P1 they have to break the DRS within 2 laps because of the abilities of the other teams on the straight
-build a sufficient gap against undercuts and overcuts. Basically the Merc drivers have already announced they are going to double team the one RB because Gasly was and is useless as always making it 2 vs 1. So they need a sizeable gap to protect against that as they dont have a second driver making the Mercs watch their own back (so full attack mode in strategy sense).
-reliability. For example the PU has done 6 races including one with high engine modes in the heat.
-unlucky sc and vsc
Nobody divebombs Max in a Red Bull!! :)

And the straight is too short for DRS until the tyres have come out to play.

But yes let's see, stuff can always happen can't it

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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 07:51
I love how morons like Nico Rosberg are making all these outlandish claims about Max being better than Lewis on the basis of one qualifying and one bad race that Lewis had.. I mean, FFS, Lewis has almost a hundred poles!!!

Just for the record, I'm a Verstappen fan and have zero inclination towards Hamilton, just respect. I guess that's life. Some people (Rosberg) luck into something (his WDC) and then feel inclined to judge and sway common perception on the basis of that power of achievement. For me, people like him and even worse, that moron called Jolyon Palmer are trolls and should be kept far away from broadcasting.
I saw the video and I interpreted it as current form considering the last year, with the ‘break’ between the two coming last race. So not ‘nased on 1 race and quali’.
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

Tom Brady, Usain Bolt are true GOATs.

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So is it just me, or was the season closer this year than what it seemed like? Ferrari should have won a couple of races but shot themselves in the foot (Bahrain, Canada, Austria). Meanwhile, Hamilton has won a few GPs which he probably shouldnt have (Bahrain and Canada) and so has Max (Austria and Hockenheim). This weekend, RedBull genuienly looks on pace and planted.

Still we are on the 12 race with Hamilton with a 60+ points lead to the best non Mercedes car (Verstappen).

As strong as RedBull look, i do have my doubts if they can sustain their strong form at every single race that’s up. Surely they will struggle at Spa and Monza where Mercedes abd Ferrari will have an edge. I do wonder though if Honda is running more aggressive mappings at the expense of reliability and longevity... the race in Austria comes to mind where they consolidated everything to get that home win, no matter the cost...
Not for nothing, Rosberg's Championship is the only thing that lends credibility to Hamilton's recent success. Otherwise, he'd just be the guy who's had the best car. — bhall II
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search wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 09:03
Mansell89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 07:23
What are the respective remaining tyre allocations?

Can’t find anything from Pirelli!
https://i.imgur.com/HDNoJz7.png

edit: I messed up the header, but anyway... just stick to the colors
Pirelli released it too late
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Possible strategies
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Phil wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 10:51
As strong as RedBull look, i do have my doubts if they can sustain their strong form at every single race that’s up. Surely they will struggle at Spa and Monza where Mercedes abd Ferrari will have an edge. I do wonder though if Honda is running more aggressive mappings at the expense of reliability and longevity... the race in Austria comes to mind where they consolidated everything to get that home win, no matter the cost...
Agreed, the Merc is car for all types of rack track, it can give Red Bull and Ferrari a proper fight even when the course suites them best.

Honda were always going to take another engine, they have the luxury of thrashing there's to within an inch of it's life. You don't get to do this when fighting for titles.

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Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 07:51
I love how morons like Nico Rosberg are making all these outlandish claims about Max being better than Lewis on the basis of one qualifying and one bad race that Lewis had.. I mean, FFS, Lewis has almost a hundred poles!!!

Just for the record, I'm a Verstappen fan and have zero inclination towards Hamilton, just respect. I guess that's life. Some people (Rosberg) luck into something (his WDC) and then feel inclined to judge and sway common perception on the basis of that power of achievement. For me, people like him and even worse, that moron called Jolyon Palmer are trolls and should be kept far away from broadcasting.
I believe the Joylon Palmer analysis on the official F1 account is pretty thorough and rational actually, and it seems improbable to be as worked up about it as you seem to be.

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Unc1eM0nty wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 11:17
Phil wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 10:51
As strong as RedBull look, i do have my doubts if they can sustain their strong form at every single race that’s up. Surely they will struggle at Spa and Monza where Mercedes abd Ferrari will have an edge. I do wonder though if Honda is running more aggressive mappings at the expense of reliability and longevity... the race in Austria comes to mind where they consolidated everything to get that home win, no matter the cost...
Agreed, the Merc is car for all types of rack track, it can give Red Bull and Ferrari a proper fight even when the course suites them best.

Honda were always going to take another engine, they have the luxury of thrashing there's to within an inch of it's life. You don't get to do this when fighting for titles.
I can actually see teams going for 4th engine in the future if it gives them an advantage in all the other races. Especially with the advantage over the non-top 3. You basically lose 17 points (16 if you go for the fastest lap) and have more powerful engines the rest of the year.
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

Tom Brady, Usain Bolt are true GOATs.

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Juzh wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 20:07
P01 verstappen 1.14.572
https://streamable.com/i53kl
https://streamable.com/i53kl
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Do you have onboard+telemetry of Grosjean? I've heard he was fastest through turn 4.

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Ferrari currently trying to change LEC's rear crash structure without changing the gearbox to avoid a penalty.
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The top six teams are all starting on Medium tyres. Pirelli predict that a soft-medium strategy will be faster than a medium-soft one. Could that potentially bring Mclaren into play disrupting the top six, at least briefly? I guess it's unlikely since Mclaren will have to pit first, but I wonder if they may then get in the way during the top six pitstops?

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MtthsMlw wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 11:39
Juzh wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 20:07
P01 verstappen 1.14.572
https://streamable.com/i53kl
https://streamable.com/i53kl
[...]
Do you have onboard+telemetry of Grosjean? I've heard he was fastest through turn 4.
too much work for just 1 corner :D . you can check it in the f1 app

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pb6797 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 12:33
The top six teams are all starting on Medium tyres. Pirelli predict that a soft-medium strategy will be faster than a medium-soft one. Could that potentially bring Mclaren into play disrupting the top six, at least briefly? I guess it's unlikely since Mclaren will have to pit first, but I wonder if they may then get in the way during the top six pitstops?
they dont have the speed to interrupt the top 5 (i exclude Gasly, because him they can get)