2019 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 1-3 November

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Re: 2019 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 1-3 November

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izzy wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:43
Sieper wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:35
izzy wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:33
oooh, so the theory they're testing is whether Ferrari are somehow syncing fuel delivery with the FIA measurement sampling frequency, to deliver some extra in between samples. Now FIA have said that's illegal, so now the others are watching to see if the Ferrari power is reduced tomorrow. If not, they can cross that conspiracy theory off their list and move on to the next one. Lovely!!
How so, FIA can’t detect that so If that is it it is game on.
yes the assumption is that Ferrari won't risk flatly breaking a rule, isn't it. But perhaps FIA could see it in the code? They have access to all the code don't they and the standard ECU is part of that
Doesn’t mean they have a clue what it means. Remember they actually had to ask Ferrari to explain how their system works in a previous case around the PU!

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Restomaniac wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:45
izzy wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:43
But perhaps FIA could see it in the code? They have access to all the code don't they and the standard ECU is part of that
Doesn’t mean they have a clue what it means. Remember they actually had to ask Ferrari to explain how their system works in a previous case around the PU!
yes but at least they'll know they don't have a clue :) Presumably FIA have someone who knows what the ECU is supposed to be running and if they see a section of code the others don't have or they can't explain or is called "fuelsync" :D they'll focus on it and be able to unpick it eventually

and now with this TD it'd be a deliberate cheat and a huge risk for Ferrari to carry on with it. If this is what they're doing of course

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Vettel looking pretty massive for today given Leclerc will be on an old PU and their advantage on the straights is still there. It's not like they're going to stop doing what they've found if another team guesses right at the trick. The question is only if the challenge comes and if the FiA know what to look for which is likely to be doubtful unless someone points a finger at exactly what it is. Should be a good race tomorrow.

I'm off to get winter tires put on, might actually miss qualy and have to fast forward through it. The cars go even faster that way.
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Verstappen for pole! From there with a clean race he can add another tally on the win column.
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godlameroso wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:24
Verstappen for pole! From there with a clean race he can add another tally on the win column.
Is this wishful thinking or a prediction? :D

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TAG wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:00
Vettel looking pretty massive for today given Leclerc will be on an old PU and their advantage on the straights is still there. It's not like they're going to stop doing what they've found if another team guesses right at the trick. The question is only if the challenge comes and if the FiA know what to look for which is likely to be doubtful unless someone points a finger at exactly what it is. Should be a good race tomorrow.

I'm off to get winter tires put on, might actually miss qualy and have to fast forward through it. The cars go even faster that way.
Verstappen will be snapping at his heels and looks like he will be his closest challenger.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:20
Ferrari going for an older spec engine, no penalty expected.
Oil leak on his spec 3 engine, so still a possibility to use it again.
That’s nice as it will give us the opportunity to compare spec 2 with spec 3.

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LM10 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:30
MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:20
Ferrari going for an older spec engine, no penalty expected.
Oil leak on his spec 3 engine, so still a possibility to use it again.
That’s nice as it will give us the opportunity to compare spec 2 with spec 3.
Though I just assumed there that he was on his spec 3. I think that's likely.
If he was, going to spec 2 is also likely.

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godlameroso wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:24
Verstappen for pole! From there with a clean race he can add another tally on the win column.
Wasn't that's how it was supposed to have worked in Hungary too? But it didn't. With the kind of Race pace Merc has, it isn't given that the man starting on pole would win the race.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:33
LM10 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:30
MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:20
Ferrari going for an older spec engine, no penalty expected.
Oil leak on his spec 3 engine, so still a possibility to use it again.
That’s nice as it will give us the opportunity to compare spec 2 with spec 3.
Though I just assumed there that he was on his spec 3. I think that's likely.
If he was, going to spec 2 is also likely.
The usual routine/weekend strategy is to fit the most powerful engine before FP3, replacing engines between FP3 and Q isn't something they "like" to do.
With that engine 3 being the engine that was on the car this morning seems like a good bet.

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GPR -A wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:36
godlameroso wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:24
Verstappen for pole! From there with a clean race he can add another tally on the win column.
Wasn't that's how it was supposed to have worked in Hungary too? But it didn't. With the kind of Race pace Merc has, it isn't given that the man starting on pole would win the race.
Not to mention you can actually pass in COTA.
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Qualifying prediction
Ham - Vet - Ver

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Vettel
Verstappen
Bottas
Hamilton

I've been out, is Leclerc definitely out then?

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Wass85 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:54
Vettel
Verstappen
Bottas
Hamilton

I've been out, is Leclerc definitely out then?
He'll be on an older engine.

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LM10 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 22:30
MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 21:20
Ferrari going for an older spec engine, no penalty expected.
Oil leak on his spec 3 engine, so still a possibility to use it again.
That’s nice as it will give us the opportunity to compare spec 2 with spec 3.
the Spec 2 was used in 7 races though + probably all Fridays after Monza. So it's not really a fair comparison