COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[Zynerji]

When there is a proven success of a drug that we have in abundance, and it works faster than Zicam, the continuation of hysteria is a hoax. Period.

Fwiw im weakly neutral (risk calculus alone) on Chloroquine, but it's really not as clear as some think. Here is a thorough and recent summary of some new data and a reanalysis of the French data. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... or-april-6

America politicizes everything and it isn't helpful.

My link has a doctor in California, not France.

That drug is proving to be amazing for this issue. The only people that are still pushing back on it are those that dont want the crisis to end, for whatever reason.

[hollus]

When there is a proven success of a drug that we have in abundance, and it works faster than Zicam, the continuation of hysteria is a hoax. Period.

Fwiw im weakly neutral (risk calculus alone) on Chloroquine, but it's really not as clear as some think. Here is a thorough and recent summary of some new data and a reanalysis of the French data. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... or-april-6

America politicizes everything and it isn't helpful.

An extract from there:
“ Most of the people who get the coronavirus survive – the fatality rate is of course being argued about, but is probably in the 1% range, give or take. Now, from a public health standpoint, that’s an awful figure, ten times as bad as the seasonal flu and with a more infectious virus as well. But for figuring out therapeutic options, it’s tricky: if most everyone will eventually recover with the current standard of care, how do you test your new idea?”

That ~1% rate comes with another curse: Anything you do must be harmless for 99.x% of your patients, or it will do more harm than good. Of course all cases are different, but a lot of evidence, over weeks of follow-up is necessary before the picture becomes clear for any drug. Also note that it is only recently that those hundreds and thousands of patients exist that are necessary for testing.

[Just_a_fan]

With the current data trend, I can see the USA moving to an "At Your Own Risk" position about the lockdown by this weekend. The numbers are already driving the market up, and they are surely the ones most closely following the non-hysteric data.

Interesting approach to trust healthcare decisions to professional gamblers.

The US will take whatever approach Trump thinks will help win him the next election.

[Just_a_fan]

Stay-at-Home is unnecessary in the US at this point. Every non-hysteric, non-Trump-hating news source agrees.

At this point, it's a political crisis thats being milked to attack Trump more than it is a true viral pandemic.

Ummm...that's not right at all. Keep watching Fox.

Not Fox...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... urs-video/

When there is a proven success of a drug that we have in abundance, and it works faster than Zicam, the continuation of hysteria is a hoax. Period.

No, it's not Fox. It's worse.

The Democrat-media complex is so evil, they would rather see Americans die from the Coronavirus than report on the truth about hydroxychloroquine because they hate President Trump that much.

Balanced? Er...

I find it strange that a country that started a war over 3000 deaths cares so little about four times that number of dead with the number increasing on a daily basis.

Anyway, let the US do as it will. If they're right, good for them.

[Scorpaguy]

Re 2020 F1 season / Countries hosting a future GP that have significant covid outbreaks:

...can anyone explain to me how any race/semblance of a season happen this year?

Countries with significant outbreaks will need a minimum 60-90 days of zero cases/day prior to the date just to "regroup". Will fans be willing/able to travel? Sans a vaccine...universally available/administered...nobody knows what happens to covid come October???

So...given covid disappears tomorrow, the first GP is mid July. However, a realistic scenario is covid has peaked/receded in most places by July. At that time most GP hosting locales may not need 90 days prep, but would need 60ish...thus late August.

I realize that F1 and promoters would be working on events both before and during these down times...but all is still a prediction..and "predictions are hard...especially about the future" (Yogism). The hosts will still have to pay Bernie's fees, and may be still quite preoccupied or just plain not interested.

Thus, is 2020 dead?

[strad]

found this interesting. Especially as one who has said we should go back to a time when we raced south of the equator in our winter: https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/04/ ... er-season/

[Wouter]

F1 shutdown extended by two weeks amid coronavirus pandemic

Formula 1’s rulemakers have approved a motion to extend the shutdown period by a further two weeks, as the world continues to battle the coronavirus pandemic.

Last month, governing body the FIA opted to bring F1’s traditional summer shutdown period forward to the spring and extend it by seven days to three weeks.

On Monday, F1 teams, F1 and the FIA held a conference call to discuss a number of matters, including extending the shutdown period.

The shutdown means departments such as design, research and development, production and build must down tools. A recent rule change extended the closure to power unit manufacturers, too, as rulemakers moved to cut costs.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... kbPcG.html

[Peter1919]

Stay-at-Home is unnecessary in the US at this point. Every non-hysteric, non-Trump-hating news source agrees.

At this point, it's a political crisis thats being milked to attack Trump more than it is a true viral pandemic.

I take it you don't live in New York state then where stay at home is very much is necessary given they have already had over 5000 deaths from Covid-19. I would suggest that the rest of the US (cities especially) would be well advised to stay at home uness they want to end up with similar death rates.

[Just_a_fan]

found this interesting. Especially as one who has said we should go back to a time when we raced south of the equator in our winter: https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/04/ ... er-season/

It does seem like a pragmatic response. It would be interesting to see additional races, may be in the form of double-headers at some tracks, if a full allocation of races can't be achieved otherwise e.g. some countries deciding against allowing the F1 circus in for whatever reason.

[FrukostScones]

voting disabled?
probably because the wrong guy endorsed the right thing.
Sad!

[aral]

This thread has degenerated into a political dispute. Different countries will handle the crisis in different ways, so there is no need to get personal about what action any country is taking. It may turn out to be correct or it may turn out to be a big mistake. Please try to keep things civil.

[Big Tea]

It is difficult for Brits to imagine how things are, or at leas can be, in USA. It is on a par with a 'problem' being in say Greece and having an influence in London. I am not taking any stance on it, just suggesting that out concept man not be what the actuality is.

[Just_a_fan]

It is difficult for Brits to imagine how things are, or at leas can be, in USA. It is on a par with a 'problem' being in say Greece and having an influence in London. I am not taking any stance on it, just suggesting that out concept man not be what the actuality is.

Indeed so. Distance makes it easy to consider a problem is not applicable to oneself, just as you say with Greece's economic problems a few years ago weren't viewed as being an issue in the UK.

Hopefully, the US's large distances will help to prevent the virus becoming rife throughout the country.

[PlatinumZealot]

It is difficult for Brits to imagine how things are, or at leas can be, in USA. It is on a par with a 'problem' being in say Greece and having an influence in London. I am not taking any stance on it, just suggesting that out concept man not be what the actuality is.

Indeed so. Distance makes it easy to consider a problem is not applicable to oneself, just as you say with Greece's economic problems a few years ago weren't viewed as being an issue in the UK.

Hopefully, the US's large distances will help to prevent the virus becoming rife throughout the country.

Remember how China's curve had a step in it? Sort of because it had a sort of second wave... USA has 50 states so I am expecting multiple steps (waves) superimposed on each other as each states drops and peaks over the next two to three months. The spread has already occurred to the different states, so distance between states wont stop it. Distance between homes should help, but there are many cities with cramped living conditions that are suffering and will continue to suffer over the next month or so. The numbers are gonna be crazy for the USA. I'm just hoping as temperatures go up it slows somehow.

[izzy]

i'd say a general lesson is that anybody getting smug about their country doing it better is going to get nailed eventually! Mostly it's only been a matter of time. Nationalism isn't the best thing, just like in F1