2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

[El Scorchio]

Yes, Di Resta mentioned this straight away on the Sky coverage but the safety car remained out for a bit longer. I’m sure RBRs real motivation as to have the race stopped immediately and Max awarded the win.

Yes, the one moment Di Resta perked up and had a bit of hope in his sad, solemn voice again, until Hamilton went off when he started sounding like a kid at Christmas!

Everybody on Sky needs to be for Hamilton? Brundle f.e. Quite clearly is. Ant is. Easy to recognize as well. Sam Collins is actually (is he Sky?) fanatically for Hamilton. And next to that against Verstappen. Sky isn’t watched just in the UK you know.

Who said anything about Hamilton? (To be fair I mentioned him, but the point was about Di Resta rather than anything else. My feeling is that the others are able to keep their emotions from spilling over a bit more. Croft didn't sound like he was at a funeral when either Verstappen or Hamilton was out.)

But to that point, Sky is primarily paid for BY the UK public and has UK talking heads FOR the UK public. It's kind of incidental that other countries take their commentary team just because of economics and the fact that English is so widely spoken.

Ziggo are REALLY impartial, of course....

[nzjrs]

You cannot blame the british to cheer for a british driver...One may expect a more neutral stance though if it is the official F1 TV for international coverage. May be they are not told yet that F1 TV is for more than only GB

That would be a good idea.

Next someone will be telling me the Italian broadcaster is massively in support of Ferrari and LeClerc

I don't pay a British broadcaster

But the italians dont't cover much more than italy. That's the difference.

Exactly.

[Juzh]

I totally see why you got the negative rating.

Because I'm pointing the finger at the ugly truth that St. Pirelli didn't live up to the challenge? It's worth...

No, I think you got downvoted because you sound like you don’t understand what you are talking about.

I think he understands quite well what he's talking about, and you not so much. That's because you've given him zero rebuttal except calling him stupid between the lines.

[Big Tea]

But the italians dont't cover much more than italy. That's the difference.

But if they did, there may be an alternative to sky. Too late now as they have it sewn up, but it seemed no one else would pay a fraction of what they pay for football. BBC spent all the money on Tennis at the time the contract for F1 was open

[Juzh]

Yes, Di Resta mentioned this straight away on the Sky coverage but the safety car remained out for a bit longer. I’m sure RBRs real motivation as to have the race stopped immediately and Max awarded the win.

Also once the red flag came out , I first thought the race was finished, maybe RedBull already knew Perez had an issue, so stopping it early would have helped them or at least get to Perez car to try and fix the hydraulic issue he had ? Who knows.

They knew. Hydraulics do sometimes go down slowly. They told checo no weaving and burn outs onto the grid for the restart. Explains the poor restart too I think?

He did the burnouts:

[El Scorchio]

You cannot blame the british to cheer for a british driver...One may expect a more neutral stance though if it is the official F1 TV for international coverage. May be they are not told yet that F1 TV is for more than only GB

That would be a good idea.

Next someone will be telling me the Italian broadcaster is massively in support of Ferrari and LeClerc

I don't pay a British broadcaster

But the italians dont't cover much more than italy. That's the difference.

Exactly.

Then I suggest the onus is on F1TV/FOM to use their subscriber money to put their own commentary team together rather than piggybacking on someone else's coverage because it's cheaper.

[Juzh]

Yes, the one moment Di Resta perked up and had a bit of hope in his sad, solemn voice again, until Hamilton went off when he started sounding like a kid at Christmas!

Everybody on Sky needs to be for Hamilton? Brundle f.e. Quite clearly is. Ant is. Easy to recognize as well. Sam Collins is actually (is he Sky?) fanatically for Hamilton. And next to that against Verstappen. Sky isn’t watched just in the UK you know.

Yeah, I can't believe I pay for F1 TV and get Sky. I'm not british! They are so biased towards MB and Hamilton that the only time and way some people here notice it is when Di Resta is the odd one out.

It used to be that the pitlane channel on F1 TV was neutral - Alex Brundle and Aalex Jaques (sp?) are fantastic. Yesterday they had Rosanna Tennant and Sam Collins doing the PLC and they were once again in the tank for MB and Hamilton.

Alex Jacques is now on channel 4:

I agree PLC is not as good anymore.

[nzjrs]

You cannot blame the british to cheer for a british driver...One may expect a more neutral stance though if it is the official F1 TV for international coverage. May be they are not told yet that F1 TV is for more than only GB

That would be a good idea.

Next someone will be telling me the Italian broadcaster is massively in support of Ferrari and LeClerc

I don't pay a British broadcaster

But the italians dont't cover much more than italy. That's the difference.

Exactly.

Then I suggest the onus is on F1TV/FOM to use their subscriber money to put their own commentary team together rather than piggybacking on someone else's coverage because it's cheaper.

Yes, that's what the pit lane channel is for - but this weekend it was very disappointing. The normal commentators were replaced by Sky TV drones.

[sosic2121]

Max second time (last year Imola) that a tire that is supposed to be fine, and seemingly was, killed his race. I was totally down, sweating from the utter bad feeling. But at least in the end Hamilton did not profit. Al though I am still dissapointed from the win down the drain it at least is on still for the WDC for now. But a great opportunity lost.

On performance and lack of mistakes Max should be leading the championship by a much larger margin, but the next couple of races with two at RedBull ring should suit RedBull more. He is champion caliber. With the championship so close who needs sprint races.

Objectively, I think I would give it to Max too if I had to choose who has been driving better so far, but it's nip and tuck. I don't necessarily think Max is the better pilot, but he has been keeping a calmer head I would say. Lewis of course is wringing the neck of the car like Max was last year. Early days though. I have a hunch that the Mercedes will become the fastest car once the first set of upgrades come in, and I hoping for a return to dominance.

Nice to see a really objective comment from you about drivers and situation overall
I only hope that dominance will not happen.

[nzjrs]

Alex Jacques is now on channel 4:

I agree PLC is not as good anymore.

Oh no! Thats terrible for me - good for him though!

I really didnt like the commentary team this weekend. What did you think?

[El Scorchio]

That would be a good idea.



I don't pay a British broadcaster



Exactly.

Then I suggest the onus is on F1TV/FOM to use their subscriber money to put their own commentary team together rather than piggybacking on someone else's coverage because it's cheaper.

Yes, that's what the pit lane channel is for - but this weekend it was very disappointing. The normal commentators were replaced by Sky TV drones.

Well, that must have been disappointing, but you can't blame Sky for that.

Edit- although if you are referring to the two you mentioned earlier, I don't believe either of those work for Sky.
Second edit- one for them does, so it seems But they are not part of Sky's coverage of the race weekends, so should definitely have a neutral hat on.

[NathanOlder]

Yes, the one moment Di Resta perked up and had a bit of hope in his sad, solemn voice again, until Hamilton went off when he started sounding like a kid at Christmas!

Everybody on Sky needs to be for Hamilton? Brundle f.e. Quite clearly is. Ant is. Easy to recognize as well. Sam Collins is actually (is he Sky?) fanatically for Hamilton. And next to that against Verstappen. Sky isn’t watched just in the UK you know.

Yeah, I can't believe I pay for F1 TV and get Sky. I'm not british! They are so biased towards MB and Hamilton that the only time and way some people here notice it is when Di Resta is the odd one out.

It used to be that the pitlane channel on F1 TV was neutral - Alex Brundle and Aalex Jaques (sp?) are fantastic. Yesterday they had Rosanna Tennant and Sam Collins doing the PLC and they were once again in the tank for MB and Hamilton.

Alex Jaques is an absolute clown who gets so much wrong, time and time again.

[DChemTech]

That would be a good idea.



I don't pay a British broadcaster



Exactly.

Then I suggest the onus is on F1TV/FOM to use their subscriber money to put their own commentary team together rather than piggybacking on someone else's coverage because it's cheaper.

Yes, that's what the pit lane channel is for - but this weekend it was very disappointing. The normal commentators were replaced by Sky TV drones.

Aw well, still beats Dutch' Olav Mol though - who managed to utter something along the lines "So, it was actually Red Bull themselves that asked Charlie Whiting to call a red flag"

[NathanOlder]

But the italians dont't cover much more than italy. That's the difference.

It's not the British commentators fault that a large portion of the world watch/listen to their feed. Maybe that shows they are doing a good job ?

[nzjrs]

Alex Jaques is an absolute clown who gets so much wrong, time and time again.

He is a Croft-equivalent hype man, I'll give you that, but hes less biased than the Croftster, the worst person to work in broadcast media.

So if it came down to which Croft to broadcast to the world, I'd choose the lesser of the two Crofts.