2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Mogster wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 09:46
Bottas’s junior record was pretty stellar. He beat Ricciardo in Formula Renault 2.0 on the way. He’s always had excellent one lap pace, driving the Williams previously also.

Like Mazepin, Latiffi did have a handful of wins in his final F2 season. It was probably one of the weakest F2 fields in recent years though. Mazepin was 2nd to Hubert in GP3 but it was a weak year, Hubert didn’t really shine in GP3. Other than Peter Windsor being a fan of Mazepin’s I can’t see much in Mazepin or Latiffi’s junior record to suggest they are F1 material.
The only thing I know about Bottas junior career is that the jumped from GP3(the crappy one inverted grid and Pirelli tyres, not the Euro F3 that had 3 QLF each weekend and good tyres) to F1 without doing GP2.

I just checked, Latiffi was a veteran on 2019 and he did won 3 races on the first 3 tracks. Then, after other driver got a bit more used to the cars/series, he only won another race on Hungary and that´s it. He never got a pole but his results are indeed better than I remembered.
sosic2121 wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 10:56
regarding speed and racecraft Leclerc is possibly best driver at the moment.
That´s my impression as well, at least currently.
Sieper wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 11:06
Sainz is too close to him for that on speed and his racecraft has been very shaky. He has made too many easily avoidable contacts. At this point in his career it is time to start having less of those. He is a fighter, but a bit too much.
That is one of the reasons why I rate him so highly. Sainz trashed Norris for 2 years, who is being hyped to be the greatest thing ever...

The very fact that Charles isn´t being too troubled by Carlos already says a lot to me. Then I remember his poles are all jaw-dropping. Remember the 2019 Spa pole where he was 7 or 8 tenths faster than LH?! Leclerc has a type of QLF speed that I don´t quite see even on Max.
sosic2121 wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 11:32
Sainz is a really good driver, I've been saying that since 2016.

IMO currently there is no one better at car placement and fighting then Leclerc.

You Lewis and Max fans better hope that Ferrari is not a title contender next year :lol:
Agree. Ferrari have the best driver line-up by a mile. They have the guy who trashed Vettel and the other who trashed Norris.

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Big Tea wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 12:24
Starkblood80 wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 07:23
Radley wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 04:26
Do you think any driver ventured out to the caravan parks tonite.? I'd like to think of Lando going out greet some some fans. Maybe George & Carlos. Wouldn't need much , take some swag and minimal security.
I doubt they would risk catching rona mid season for a stroll around the great unwashed.
All attendees of the GP have to be double jabbed and have a recent test. Still a risk, but if the drivers have had their jabs, should not be very high
It's fully vaccinated [OR] negative test, not both.

If it was an [AND] that would unfairly descriminate against the younger folks.

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Frankly the vaccinated folks should be required to submit a negative test as well. The vaccine doesn't prevent carrying or transmitting the virus. So then if you are admitting non-vax you are potentially putting them at risk. Not to mention the potential to propagate at the track and then carry outside to the wider public.

Let's all hope the weekend doesn't end up being remembered for the wedding reasons (although covid had though competition against the sprint malarkey).

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Frankly we should just drop the testing and track and trace.

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Seems these commentators weren't properly informed of the modified parc ferme regulations.
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This format kinda ruins the appeal of watching FP2 with no low fuel running. Mixture of sprint and race runs makes it hard to read. First negative so far.

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Is there any point having this practice now that they have done the only quali that counts?
They are doubtful about damaging the cars now or during the sprint, so why not allow a spare car, each could be driven by the spare driver to fill this slot, which is probably why 'practice' is held now anyway?
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No DRS in sprint race, right ?
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:lol: :lol: Mark Webber on the AWS graphic. "Maybe they asked some school kids their scores out of 10"
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Big Tea wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:18
Is there any point having this practice now that they have done the only quali that counts?
They are doubtful about damaging the cars now or during the sprint, so why not allow a spare car, each could be driven by the spare driver to fill this slot, which is probably why 'practice' is held now anyway?
It's so weird. Like the old pre-race warmup. Very low energy. But most only did short runs yesterday practice.
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Shrieker wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:22
No DRS in sprint race, right ?
DRS is still enabled AFAIK. They were considering changing it to 2 seconds gap for sprint qualifying, but that idea was dropped.

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Are they allowed to change RW DF levels? Apparently RBR was running too much RW which shifted balance rearwards and caused the understeer for Max.

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Xero wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:29
Shrieker wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:22
No DRS in sprint race, right ?
DRS is still enabled AFAIK. They were considering changing it to 2 seconds gap for sprint qualifying, but that idea was dropped.
Oh thank god. No DRS would've been retarded. Wonder where I've seen that..

Are they allowed to pit for a tire change though ?
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jjn9128 wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:27
Big Tea wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:18
Is there any point having this practice now that they have done the only quali that counts?
They are doubtful about damaging the cars now or during the sprint, so why not allow a spare car, each could be driven by the spare driver to fill this slot, which is probably why 'practice' is held now anyway?
It's so weird. Like the old pre-race warmup. Very low energy. But most only did short runs yesterday practice.
It feels like they're doing their long run real race sim runs for Sunday.
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RZS10 wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 13:30
Are they allowed to change RW DF levels? Apparently RBR was running too much RW which shifted balance rearwards and caused the understeer for Max.
Been looking at the rules, I think they are limited to front wing, brakes and suspension. Would be strange ommiting rear wing angle with all that though.